Is it really the biggest fight of all time?

[k1t3]

Mayweather/Pacquiao can potentially be the most watched and the most profitable fight in boxing history. If both be true, then we can argue that it is the biggest fight especially if the fight does not disappoint.

[Ray*]

Thats a fair assessment. How big do you think Hearns-Leonard would have been under the same circumstances as today?

Oh, that would have been a very very big fight to be fair, Even Leonard/Hagler would have been so as well, but the hype would have made those fight even bigger if it happens now.

Dont know how those fight was sold or hyped in those days but with the internet around now, 24/7 available now, Trashtalking from both-sides or from PBF mainly it could push this fight just ahead of the Leonard-Hearns-Hagler days.

[karrapato]

The money envolved can reach 80 million dollars.

[Guest]

It will be the biggest fight in some poster's boxing lifetimes.

Cuz they started watching boxing 2 years ago

[GG Marquez]

If Mayweather-Pacquiao comes off is it really the biggest fight of all time? Bigger than Ali-Frazier 1? Bigger than Louis-Schmeling 2? Johnson-Jeffries? Or is it just a bigger fight because of PPV? Millions and millions of people were focused on these three other fights when there was no PPV. Everyone in the world was focused on them. What makes this fight bigger and more significant?

Jabs,

I'd like to answer your question in a structured way:

1) Worldwide significance:
No, it is not the biggest fight. Louis-Schmeling was at a time when the world was at war, and you had someone like louis who was a military man and Schmeling was backed by a global evil in Hitler. That fight had greater significance; also because boxing itself was so much more important in the public consciousness.

Ali was a global figure for his opposition of the Vietnam war. He had made a stand for something beyond boxing. He had converted to Islam. There were many subplots and subtexts in that fight. People were politically polarized in that bout. I know that Pacquiao fans will try to tell you that he is a global figure who transcends the sport. But I challenge any of the hardcore non-Flips on this board to tell me what Pac stands for politically. You don't even know. And we post here daily and discuss his political aspirations. That's how "important" Pacquiao is.

2) Economic Impact:
It's tough to do a direct comparison because of the varying revenue streams. For example, PPV is a relatively new development in the course of boxing history. But you can do some very simple math about the time value of money (which I'm shocked that nobody has done!) to adjust for inflation. Ali-Frazier split USD 5 Mn. In today's dollars, that would mean that Floyd and Pac would split a $27 million guarantee without PPV. Would that happen? No.

3) Competitive Excellence
TBD. Between Pac and Floyd, they have fought the top guys. People love to laud Pac's competition while criticising Floyd's. The reality is that they have fought equal comp over the past few years:

Pacquiao: Delahoya, Marquez, Hatton, Diaz, Cotto
Mayweather: Delahoya, Marquez, Hatton, Baldomir, Judah

Do this quick exercise: assign a "score" from 1-10 for each opponent (at the time they fought them), and then add them up. What is your cumulative score for each? Floyd was favored to win all. Pac was favored to win all except DLH, but we know he should have been favored.

Anyway, these two guys have fought equal comp, but not necessarily THE BEST guys out there. Now they are. Each one is the best guy the other can face.

Leonard-Hearns is the benchmark. A back-n-forth battle where Hearns was outboxing SRL (surprisingly) and SRL needed the KO late to win. We'll see if this fight can meet that level of excellence.

In sum, this is not the biggest fight in history, if compared apples-to-apples.

[GG Marquez]

The money envolved can reach 80 million dollars.

Vc e' carioca?

[Grimmer]

Ali v Frazier is bigger. That was a huge sporting event, it was beyond boxing.

This isn't, because boxing just isn't as big as what it was. Neither Pacquiao or Mayweather are worldwide household names.

[JAB5239]

Jabs,

I'd like to answer your question in a structured way:

1) Worldwide significance:
No, it is not the biggest fight. Louis-Schmeling was at a time when the world was at war, and you had someone like louis who was a military man and Schmeling was backed by a global evil in Hitler. That fight had greater significance; also because boxing itself was so much more important in the public consciousness.

Ali was a global figure for his opposition of the Vietnam war. He had made a stand for something beyond boxing. He had converted to Islam. There were many subplots and subtexts in that fight. People were politically polarized in that bout. I know that Pacquiao fans will try to tell you that he is a global figure who transcends the sport. But I challenge any of the hardcore non-Flips on this board to tell me what Pac stands for politically. You don't even know. And we post here daily and discuss his political aspirations. That's how "important" Pacquiao is.

2) Economic Impact:
It's tough to do a direct comparison because of the varying revenue streams. For example, PPV is a relatively new development in the course of boxing history. But you can do some very simple math about the time value of money (which I'm shocked that nobody has done!) to adjust for inflation. Ali-Frazier split USD 5 Mn. In today's dollars, that would mean that Floyd and Pac would split a $27 million guarantee without PPV. Would that happen? No.

3) Competitive Excellence
TBD. Between Pac and Floyd, they have fought the top guys. People love to laud Pac's competition while criticising Floyd's. The reality is that they have fought equal comp over the past few years:

Pacquiao: Delahoya, Marquez, Hatton, Diaz, Cotto
Mayweather: Delahoya, Marquez, Hatton, Baldomir, Judah

Do this quick exercise: assign a "score" from 1-10 for each opponent (at the time they fought them), and then add them up. What is your cumulative score for each? Floyd was favored to win all. Pac was favored to win all except DLH, but we know he should have been favored.

Anyway, these two guys have fought equal comp, but not necessarily THE BEST guys out there. Now they are. Each one is the best guy the other can face.

Leonard-Hearns is the benchmark. A back-n-forth battle where Hearns was outboxing SRL (surprisingly) and SRL needed the KO late to win. We'll see if this fight can meet that level of excellence.

In sum, this is not the biggest fight in history, if compared apples-to-apples.

This was a fantastic post!

[ILLuminato]

I think this will be one of the biggest events in media of the year. It depends on how the event is displayed. If it is at the MGM Grand Garden, it will be just another fight. If it is at a bigger venue, I could see it as the biggest fight ever.

[Kevin Jesus]

Jabs,

I'd like to answer your question in a structured way:

1) Worldwide significance:
No, it is not the biggest fight. Louis-Schmeling was at a time when the world was at war, and you had someone like louis who was a military man and Schmeling was backed by a global evil in Hitler. That fight had greater significance; also because boxing itself was so much more important in the public consciousness.

Ali was a global figure for his opposition of the Vietnam war. He had made a stand for something beyond boxing. He had converted to Islam. There were many subplots and subtexts in that fight. People were politically polarized in that bout. I know that Pacquiao fans will try to tell you that he is a global figure who transcends the sport. But I challenge any of the hardcore non-Flips on this board to tell me what Pac stands for politically. You don't even know. And we post here daily and discuss his political aspirations. That's how "important" Pacquiao is.

2) Economic Impact:
It's tough to do a direct comparison because of the varying revenue streams. For example, PPV is a relatively new development in the course of boxing history. But you can do some very simple math about the time value of money (which I'm shocked that nobody has done!) to adjust for inflation. Ali-Frazier split USD 5 Mn. In today's dollars, that would mean that Floyd and Pac would split a $27 million guarantee without PPV. Would that happen? No.

3) Competitive Excellence
TBD. Between Pac and Floyd, they have fought the top guys. People love to laud Pac's competition while criticising Floyd's. The reality is that they have fought equal comp over the past few years:

Pacquiao: Delahoya, Marquez, Hatton, Diaz, Cotto
Mayweather: Delahoya, Marquez, Hatton, Baldomir, Judah

Do this quick exercise: assign a "score" from 1-10 for each opponent (at the time they fought them), and then add them up. What is your cumulative score for each? Floyd was favored to win all. Pac was favored to win all except DLH, but we know he should have been favored.

Anyway, these two guys have fought equal comp, but not necessarily THE BEST guys out there. Now they are. Each one is the best guy the other can face.

Leonard-Hearns is the benchmark. A back-n-forth battle where Hearns was outboxing SRL (surprisingly) and SRL needed the KO late to win. We'll see if this fight can meet that level of excellence.

In sum, this is not the biggest fight in history, if compared apples-to-apples.

Lol damn you are a good poster man idk why you are red. I see a lot of decent posters in red k. That is Boxingscene I guess.