No... I don't see just one side... I'm with you... DLH was past it BUT that's not Manny's fault and again I'm not faulting him for that at all... everybody wanted DLH and it wasn't because he was the best... so I don't blame him at all... and even if somebody is past their prime you still need someone to beat it out of him... I give Pacquiao probs for that... and if I wouldn't respect him I wouldn't have said he is an all-time great IMO... and it sure isn't ONLY because he beat Cotto... I give him credit where credit is needed
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you said and that was the thing that I tried to explain to you... he always fights the best... and that's simply not true... he always probably fought a bigger man but they weren't the best. This is simply what drives me crazy about it... that ppl always come up with he's fighting the best... he ain't... same goes out to Floyd...
He wanted to fight Hatton for a long time. Hatton ain't wanted no part dude... Hatton also fought at 147... it's clearly not his weight but he wasn't moving up into something complete new.
Marquez was the best at 135... he pretty much established it in two fights. He moved up two weight classes... it's a thing that Manny did, Mosley did it before... all in one fight... he now compaigns at 140. Of course you can make an argument about 147 is too much for him... but hey... the only thing that I'm mad about this fight is that May ain't made weight... that's unprofessional... and he not even apologized for it...
And again... I'm not bashing Pacquiao's record or anything but he ain't did something way more special then Mayweather did. And Pacquiao once was a Flyweight as he was very, very young... but as soon as he had real boxing training in the US... he pretty much was a real featherweight... even struggled to make weight sometimes... so what he did because of his body size and short arms against giants is really a great achievement... but he definitely ain't fought the best all the time. And that's ok... because nobody does actually... I could talk about others here as well... but like stated you have to be honest...
In the end I get what you mean and that's why I say until now... Floyd has all-time great skill and Pacquiao is an all-time great this is a difference and you should know through that that I see many things the same like you do... and yes, you can actually like May and Pacquiao... it's possible *lol*
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you said and that was the thing that I tried to explain to you... he always fights the best... and that's simply not true... he always probably fought a bigger man but they weren't the best. This is simply what drives me crazy about it... that ppl always come up with he's fighting the best... he ain't... same goes out to Floyd...
He wanted to fight Hatton for a long time. Hatton ain't wanted no part dude... Hatton also fought at 147... it's clearly not his weight but he wasn't moving up into something complete new.
Marquez was the best at 135... he pretty much established it in two fights. He moved up two weight classes... it's a thing that Manny did, Mosley did it before... all in one fight... he now compaigns at 140. Of course you can make an argument about 147 is too much for him... but hey... the only thing that I'm mad about this fight is that May ain't made weight... that's unprofessional... and he not even apologized for it...
And again... I'm not bashing Pacquiao's record or anything but he ain't did something way more special then Mayweather did. And Pacquiao once was a Flyweight as he was very, very young... but as soon as he had real boxing training in the US... he pretty much was a real featherweight... even struggled to make weight sometimes... so what he did because of his body size and short arms against giants is really a great achievement... but he definitely ain't fought the best all the time. And that's ok... because nobody does actually... I could talk about others here as well... but like stated you have to be honest...
In the end I get what you mean and that's why I say until now... Floyd has all-time great skill and Pacquiao is an all-time great this is a difference and you should know through that that I see many things the same like you do... and yes, you can actually like May and Pacquiao... it's possible *lol*
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