New Ring Ratings: Lucian Bute is #1 Super Middleweight

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  • TyrantT316
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    #21
    Bute is a good fighter...

    but beating a no defense Andrade twice (once almost being stopped) after Kessler already batted him doesn't make his the best SMW in the world. So far, the division is so rich, Calzaghe retired from the division with a Kessler win, so to me the SMW division is up in the air until the best fight the best with the winners having top claim...

    So far those guys with top claim are Ward, Abraham, Bute and Froch...but no one is THE best yet...that's what the tourney is for...

    They should make Bute-Green, Bute-Bika or Green-Bika

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    • Animalistic 5.0
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      #22
      Originally posted by RTS
      I just don't understand that. Knocking out a guy, with a good chin who walks into punches, isn't that impressive to me. Andrade constantly walks into punches, he's eventually gonna get caught with something that hurts him. Bute had 16 rounds to get it done. Plus I remember seeing Andrade rocked against that Mack guy, it's not like he's unhurt-able. Max Kellerman was really overrating Andrade's chin even calling him a "punch absorbing freak."

      A good win, but man I wouldn't bolt him to #1.
      16 rounds and he beat him two times. Yes Andrade has no defence but he is a Top 10 SMW and Bute beat him two times. BTW if it was easy to KO him Kessler would have done it when they fought.

      Yes Ward beat Kessler but what he did before that? Bute had been 191 days on the list and Ward 29 days. i think giving Bute the #1 spot was the right thing to do.

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      • K'naan
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        #23
        Originally posted by Animalistic 5.0
        16 rounds and he beat him two times. Yes Andrade has no defence but he is a Top 10 SMW and Bute beat him two times. BTW if it was easy to KO him Kessler would have done it when they fought.

        Yes Ward beat Kessler but what he did before that? Bute had been 191 days on the list and Ward 29 days. i think giving Bute the #1 spot was the right thing to do.
        Didn’t Kessler school Andrade and way better than Bute.

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        • boxing_great
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          #24
          its way tooo soon to predict who the best is.
          I can't believe everybody is debating it so early.

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          • TheUptownKid
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            #25
            Originally posted by K'naan
            Didn’t Kessler school Andrade and way better than Bute.
            its not a who can beat andrade best competition its whos pound for pound and kesslers not above bute on here

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            • bojangles1987
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              #26
              Ward's victory over Kessler was a statement, but he needs more than that to vault straight to number one. Don't have a problem with Bute being at the top.

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              • P4P Opinion
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                #27
                Originally posted by TheUptownKid
                kessler obviously isn't 3 after his thrashing...I think momentum factors into rankings as is noticed by kessler's drop
                That's a very subjective way of ranking fighters. I mean, I know subjectivity plays a part but I think it should take a backseat to raw achievements. Why should Kessler drop so much just for one defeat? Other than Froch and now Ward who beat him, Kessler has achieved more than the rest at Super Middleweight. I don't see why one horrible performance suddently means other guys jump him in the rankings. That's giving rankings by default.

                Originally posted by TheUptownKid
                froch's latest performance was average at best
                I agree, but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to be above Bute. Froch has better victories than Bute and therefore deserves to be above him.

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                • Ch@mpBox@PR
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Animalistic 5.0
                  You got to look at the body of work and Bute been dominating for a while now and he beat Andrade (a top 10 SMW) more impressively than the former #1 SMW Kessler did.
                  That right there is why Bute is #1.

                  This fools always go y one win only!!

                  Bute
                  Andrade UD12, KO4
                  Zuņiga KO4
                  Joppy TKO10
                  Berrio TKO11
                  Bika UD12



                  He has beaten, more guys, with more quality than Ward, except for Kessler and he is KOoing them too!

                  Bute is #1 hands down!!!!

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                  • Animalistic 5.0
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by K'naan
                    Didn’t Kessler school Andrade and way better than Bute.
                    He did not stop Andrade in 4 rounds and people forget Bute won clearly the first Andrade fight. They just started crying robbery because of the reff controversy but Bute got up and that is all that matter.
                    Last edited by Animalistic 5.0; 12-01-2009, 10:27 AM.

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                    • Animalistic 5.0
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                      That right there is why Bute is #1.

                      This fools always go y one win only!!

                      Bute
                      Andrade UD12, KO4
                      Zuņiga KO4
                      Joppy TKO10
                      Berrio TKO11
                      Bika UD12



                      He has beaten, more guys, with more quality than Ward, except for Kessler and he is KOoing them too!

                      Bute is #1 hands down!!!!
                      Bingo!!!

                      Just because Ward beat Kessler doesn't mean he should get #1. That is just one good win. Bute on the other end has lots of good wins against pretty good opponents.

                      Bute deserves to be ranked #1

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