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  • Kevin Jesus
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    #41
    Originally posted by Makavelli
    sucks...felt like i was at ESB again
    I like the rude Mak more.


    Rude Mak donates points to me.


    December 24th is my birthday, don't forget you promised to give all of your points to me that day.

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    • Left Hook Tua
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      #42
      great analysis of the 2001-2005 pacquiao.

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      • Glamour Puss
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        #43
        Originally posted by them_apples
        it's a pretty simple analysis he's got here. One thing he's forgetting though, Mayweather never in his life is going to let punches go like Morales and Marquez. Those guys were able to hold Pacquiao off and drive him backwards in some cases, but they did it at the cost of there face being cut up and swelled. Mayweather will only let one punch go.

        BUT, i'm not saying he won't win. If he get's on his bicycle, Floyd is going to be very hard to find. As quick as Manny is he's also got a shorter reach.

        I still haven't picked a winner since both of these guys have some very good strong points.

        I don't agree with this guy though, his idea is way to simple. He'd make it sound like anyone who throws a right hand can beat Manny. No, Manny makes you fight, you have to go through hell and back to hold him off, something Mayweather isn't willing to do. Marquez and Morales were warriors, they didn't simply "outbox" Pacquiao.

        You obviously don't listen or only hear what you want.

        The right hand strategy was only part of his reason. The main reason is Floyds ability to adapt as the fight progresses. He conceded that Packy could win the early rounds but as JMM (and all good counterpunchers) show, once you crack a guys code, you can start to break him down.

        Floyd won't throw a lot of volume early, ,cuz' he'll be busy trying to figure out the angles, but once he gets em' and figures Packy out, he'll start to get busy.

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        • -MAKAVELLI-
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          #44
          Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
          I like the rude Mak more.


          Rude Mak donates points to me.


          December 24th is my birthday, don't forget you promised to give all of your points to me that day.



          all my points? you must be mistaking me for my alt Tua

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          • Glamour Puss
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            #45
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
            great analysis of the 2001-2005 pacquiao.
            ****** please.

            Its still the same old Packy, just w/ tailor made opponents recently.

            A counter puncher w/ skills will always give him ****.

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            • Doctor_Tenma
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              #46
              He said the same things I said.

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              • MindBat
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                #47
                Originally posted by them_apples
                it's a pretty simple analysis he's got here. One thing he's forgetting though, Mayweather never in his life is going to let punches go like Morales and Marquez. Those guys were able to hold Pacquiao off and drive him backwards in some cases, but they did it at the cost of there face being cut up and swelled. Mayweather will only let one punch go.

                BUT, i'm not saying he won't win. If he get's on his bicycle, Floyd is going to be very hard to find. As quick as Manny is he's also got a shorter reach.

                I still haven't picked a winner since both of these guys have some very good strong points.

                I don't agree with this guy though, his idea is way to simple. He'd make it sound like anyone who throws a right hand can beat Manny. No, Manny makes you fight, you have to go through hell and back to hold him off, something Mayweather isn't willing to do. Marquez and Morales were warriors, they didn't simply "outbox" Pacquiao.
                What he didn't touch on very much if at all, is Floyd's defense is superior to those guys you mentioned, and better than all of the opponents Manny has faced.

                What Floyd doesn't do is wing punches hoping something catches the guy.

                He's pretty economical but effective with his punches. He'll let his hands go when he knows his opponent is rocked and slowing down.

                Not saying Manny can't nullify that with the right strategy, but him and Freddie have a tough task ahead putting it together.

                Manny has to minimize his mistakes as much as possible to be more effective.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by VictoriaBeckham
                  You obviously don't listen or only hear what you want.

                  The right hand strategy was only part of his reason. The main reason is Floyds ability to adapt as the fight progresses. He conceded that Packy could win the early rounds but as JMM (and all good counterpunchers) show, once you crack a guys code, you can start to break him down.

                  Floyd won't throw a lot of volume early, ,cuz' he'll be busy trying to figure out the angles, but once he gets em' and figures Packy out, he'll start to get busy.
                  anytime a guy says pacquiao only has the left hand , i disregard most of what they say.

                  the guy is talking about morales-pac 1 and mayweather-corrales for god's sake.

                  i'm sorry but pacquiao and mayweather is not the same fighter they were 4 , 5 , 6 , 7 years ago.

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                  • Kevin Jesus
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Makavelli
                    all my points? you must be mistaking me for my alt Tua
                    Okay not all but hook me up with something, I want to be a high roller like you someday too you know.

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                    • Left Hook Tua
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by VictoriaBeckham
                      ****** please.

                      Its still the same old Packy, just w/ tailor made opponents recently.

                      A counter puncher w/ skills will always give him ****.
                      pacquiao from 2008 who fought marquez is not the same pacquiao who fought marquez in 2004.

                      you don't expect pacquiao to improve the last 2 years as well?

                      pacquiao improves.

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