MAYWEATHER should not be consider a 6 time world champion!

[Seiko]

well he beat both bladomir and judah so i guess it is legit

[El Jesus]

Arturo Gatti was also a paper champ at 140 when Floyd beat him.

you were here when this happened, people at 140 werent exactly lining up to fight mayweather jr, even to get a title shot at gatti, he had to force a mandatory. the only one willing to put his belt on the line was vivian harris.

[El Jesus]

ts has a good point tho.......how could you still have a belt after losing a fight at a weight you won the belt from?....

same way you can have a belt for a weight division that doesnt exist, along with winning a welterweight title without fighting at welterweight, politics and money play a factor.

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

pacq's greatest win was against cotto who had a belt that was vacated by PW. Should we discount that belt too? We can go all day with this ****** shyt!

Spend more time studying the sport than shyting on a particular fighter. NOVICES

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

If we are talking about titles what about Pac's OPBF flyweight title, IBO light welterweight title & WBA Super World featherweight titles?

OPBF?
IBO?
WBA?

are those even recognized?

Those are calculated in his historic run?

[jrosales13]

your right about that but even though david diaz had a legatimate claim at his tittle a win over judah is better than a win over diaz imo, david diaz was like an after thought even though he had a tittle no one cared about him even with out a tittle zab was still considered a major fight for anyone at ww

How is Judah a better win when he was coming off a loss to a guy like Baldomir. While Diaz was undefeated at LW? Judah is one of the most overrated fighters there is. What makes him so good? Cuz he is fast? Cuz he has a lil pop in punch? This guy has been KO'd, been beat by journeyman, been out boxed, has been beatdown, I mean Judah has lost in every imaginable way. Yet somehow people rate him pretty high. And, I just don't get it.

[El Jesus]

How is Judah a better win when he was coming off a loss to a guy like Baldomir. While Diaz was undefeated at LW? Judah is one of the most overrated fighters there is. What makes him so good? Cuz he is fast? Cuz he has a lil pop in punch? This guy has been KO'd, been beat by journeyman, been out boxed, has been beatdown, I mean Judah has lost in every imaginable way. Yet somehow people rate him pretty high. And, I just don't get it.

it was the style matchup. alot of people still wanted to see it. the fact that it did respectable ppv numbers, with two fighters not relying on a huge foreign ethnic population to rally proves that.

[NYU Alum.]

pacq's greatest win was against cotto who had a belt that was vacated by PW. Should we discount that belt too? We can go all day with this ****** shyt!

Spend more time studying the sport than shyting on a particular fighter. NOVICES

Nah, in my book, PAC's beatdown of EM in their second fight was his best win!

[jrosales13]

If we are talking about titles what about Pac's OPBF flyweight title, IBO light welterweight title & WBA Super World featherweight titles?

OPBF?
IBO?
WBA?

are those even recognized?

Who is defending the OPBF belt? See now you are reaching cuz you getting owned. So now you have to bring up a title that noboyd recognizes for Pac. Good job.

BTW I respect the IBO more than the 4 major belts. I know I am in the minority but the IBO ranks other title holders in there rankings. While the major 4 don't. Which kinda sucks if you think about it.

And, the WBA is one of the 4 major belts so it is recognized smart guy.

[El Jesus]

Who is defending the OPBF belt? See now you are reaching cuz you getting owned. So now you have to bring up a title that noboyd recognizes for Pac. Good job.

BTW I respect the IBO more than the 4 major belts. I know I am in the minority but the IBO ranks other title holders in there rankings. While the major 4 don't. Which kinda sucks if you think about it.

And, the WBA is one of the 4 major belts so it is recognized smart guy.

they do that because they arent big enough not to, it has nothing to do with ethics or morals. respect that trash belt if you want.