MAYWEATHER should not be consider a 6 time world champion!

[jrosales13]

it was the style matchup. alot of people still wanted to see it. the fact that it did respectable ppv numbers, with two fighters not relying on a huge foreign ethnic population to rally proves that.

It did less than 400k in the WW division. That has a history it has a cache. The only people who wanted to see that was Floyd and Zab fans. Who are pretty much the same people. Zab was coming off a loss to a fighter like Baldomir. How good of a win is that for Floyd really. Everybody who knows boxing. I don't care if they don't admitted but deep down they knew Floyd was going to win easily. Stylistically Zab mental aspect of the game to cause Floyd problems. People Floyd would frustrate Zab and take over.

[jrosales13]

same way you can have a belt for a weight division that doesnt exist, along with winning a welterweight title without fighting at welterweight, politics and money play a factor.

Who was won a WW title without fighting at WW?

[jrosales13]

pacq's greatest win was against cotto who had a belt that was vacated by PW. Should we discount that belt too? We can go all day with this ****** shyt!

Spend more time studying the sport than shyting on a particular fighter. NOVICES

Again that is different is apple and oranges. Cotto won a belt that Vacated Cotto didn't lose a fight and then kept the belt did he? Zab lost and kept the belt. 2 different circumstances bro.

[El Jesus]

Who was won a WW title without fighting at WW?

Manny Pacquiao. he won a title that didint exist, then won the welterweight title without actually fighting there. cotto won his belt at 147. while 141-147 is considered welterweight, the fact is, there was a set limit of 145 for cotto, so whatever.

[deliveryman]

you were here when this happened, people at 140 werent exactly lining up to fight mayweather jr, even to get a title shot at gatti, he had to force a mandatory. the only one willing to put his belt on the line was vivian harris.

I know. I'm not criticizing that he fought Gatti, it was that time in his career when he needed that breakout PPV fight.

I was just correcting the Thread Starter's own logic. If he doesn't count the IBF belt Floyd won off of Zab, then he probably shouldn't count the WBC belt Floyd won off of Gatti.

[POUND4POUNDBEST]

It did less than 400k in the WW division. That has a history it has a cache. The only people who wanted to see that was Floyd and Zab fans. Who are pretty much the same people. Zab was coming off a loss to a fighter like Baldomir. How good of a win is that for Floyd really. Everybody who knows boxing. I don't care if they don't admitted but deep down they knew Floyd was going to win easily. Stylistically Zab mental aspect of the game to cause Floyd problems. People Floyd would frustrate Zab and take over.

You are nothing but a hater...

[El Jesus]

It did less than 400k in the WW division. That has a history it has a cache. The only people who wanted to see that was Floyd and Zab fans. Who are pretty much the same people. Zab was coming off a loss to a fighter like Baldomir. How good of a win is that for Floyd really. Everybody who knows boxing. I don't care if they don't admitted but deep down they knew Floyd was going to win easily. Stylistically Zab mental aspect of the game to cause Floyd problems. People Floyd would frustrate Zab and take over.

wtf kind of bull**** semantics is this? it did over 300k, thats ALWAYS respectable. people wanted to see it, the fact that it did over 300k proves that. the numbers arent astronomical, but its on par with everyone NOT NAMED De La Hoya for that time. nobody was doing major numbers in 2006 other than de la hoya. it was on par for the average that year. not that i care about arguing ppv numbers, or any of that crap, but its a decent win for floyd, if you are going to say otherwise, then go ahead.

But just as it was this astronomical win for cotto(in the eyes of so many), for pbf it was a decent measure of how he handled a guy who was bigger, faster and hit harder than him. if you cant see that then you are full of ****.

[El Jesus]

I know. I'm not criticizing that he fought Gatti, it was that time in his career when he needed that breakout PPV fight.

I was just correcting the Thread Starter's own logic. If he doesn't count the IBF belt Floyd won off of Zab, then he probably shouldn't count the WBC belt Floyd won off of Gatti.

i was unsure. i have seen some posters whom i used to respect here do a ****in 180. some people have lost their ****in mind around here. I should have known better talking to mayweathers NSB lawyer.

[jrosales13]

they do that because they arent big enough not to, it has nothing to do with ethics or morals. respect that trash belt if you want.

WBA is trash too, WBC trash, IBF trash, WBO trash. What makes them better than the IBO. IBO is not great but I respected more than the major 4. But, you IBO trash and the major 4 are trash.

[El Jesus]

WBA is trash too, WBC trash, IBF trash, WBO trash. What makes them better than the IBO. IBO is not great but I respected more than the major 4. But, you IBO trash and the major 4 are trash.

The IBO doesnt exclude other titlists because its not big enough to ignore sanctioning fees from fighters holding other belts. i garuntee you that if they were a bigger org, theyd play the exact same game.