MAYWEATHER should not be consider a 6 time world champion!

[Doctor_Tenma]

wtf kind of bull**** semantics is this? it did over 300k, thats ALWAYS respectable. people wanted to see it, the fact that it did over 300k proves that. the numbers arent astronomical, but its on par with everyone NOT NAMED De La Hoya for that time. nobody was doing major numbers in 2006 other than de la hoya. it was on par for the average that year. not that i care about arguing ppv numbers, or any of that crap, but its a decent win for floyd, if you are going to say otherwise, then go ahead.

But just as it was this astronomical win for cotto(in the eyes of so many), for pbf it was a decent measure of how he handled a guy who was bigger, faster and hit harder than him. if you cant see that then you are full of ****.

People forget 300K+ was very respectable. And Mayweather vs. Zab Judah did 375K.

[jrosales13]

Manny Pacquiao. he won a title that didint exist, then won the welterweight title without actually fighting there. cotto won his belt at 147. while 141-147 is considered welterweight, the fact is, there was a set limit of 145 for cotto, so whatever.

They be doing catchweight fights forever. All of a sudden it diminishes the title claim?

Whitaker-Chavez fought at a catchweight at 145 for the real/lineal WW title. Nobody said **** Now all of a sudden. Pac didn't win a belt at welterweight?

[NYU Alum.]

wtf kind of bull**** semantics is this? it did over 300k, thats ALWAYS respectable. people wanted to see it, the fact that it did over 300k proves that. the numbers arent astronomical, but its on par with everyone NOT NAMED De La Hoya for that time. nobody was doing major numbers in 2006 other than de la hoya. it was on par for the average that year. not that i care about arguing ppv numbers, or any of that crap, but its a decent win for floyd, if you are going to say otherwise, then go ahead.

But just as it was this astronomical win for cotto(in the eyes of so many), for pbf it was a decent measure of how he handled a guy who was bigger, faster and hit harder than him. if you cant see that then you are full of ****.

So you're now saying that Fraudo beating Baldomir is on the same level of accomplishment of PAC beating Cotto, lmao

Buddy, Baldomir ain't even on the same level as Cotto.

[jrosales13]

wtf kind of bull**** semantics is this? it did over 300k, thats ALWAYS respectable. people wanted to see it, the fact that it did over 300k proves that. the numbers arent astronomical, but its on par with everyone NOT NAMED De La Hoya for that time. nobody was doing major numbers in 2006 other than de la hoya. it was on par for the average that year. not that i care about arguing ppv numbers, or any of that crap, but its a decent win for floyd, if you are going to say otherwise, then go ahead.

But just as it was this astronomical win for cotto(in the eyes of so many), for pbf it was a decent measure of how he handled a guy who was bigger, faster and hit harder than him. if you cant see that then you are full of ****.

Pac and Erik was doing the same PPV #'s in a weight that damn near nobody cares about unless you are a hardcore fan.. The WW division has a history has cache, casual fans watch WW fight, non boxing fans watch WW fights. Non boxing fans don't care about the Featherweight division.

The only people who wanted to see Floyd-Zab were Floyd fans who are Zab fans. Everybody wanted to see it when Zab was the champ. When Zab lost to a bum. That fight was not important anymore.

And, Cotto was not an elite fighter when he fought Zab. But, Floyd was so that was the difference. But, really I don't give Cotto that much credit for beating Zab cuz Judah is an overrated frontrunner.

[jrosales13]

The IBO doesnt exclude other titlists because its not big enough to ignore sanctioning fees from fighters holding other belts. i garuntee you that if they were a bigger org, theyd play the exact same game.

But, right now they are not doing it. So I right now I respected more. So when they start with that bull**** of not ranking other titlist. Then that is when I will put them with the rest. But, as for right now, today, I respect the IBO more.

[El Jesus]

So you're now saying that Fraudo beating Baldomir is on the same level of accomplishment of PAC beating Cotto, lmao

Buddy, Baldomir ain't even on the same level as Cotto.

what the ***? i never, i NEVER said that!

[letsgobrady]

How is Judah a better win when he was coming off a loss to a guy like Baldomir. While Diaz was undefeated at LW? Judah is one of the most overrated fighters there is. What makes him so good? Cuz he is fast? Cuz he has a lil pop in punch? This guy has been KO'd, been beat by journeyman, been out boxed, has been beatdown, I mean Judah has lost in every imaginable way. Yet somehow people rate him pretty high. And, I just don't get it.

who did diaz fight at lightweight?did he fight corrales,castillo,freitas,juan diaz, cassamayor,nate campbell, katsidis? yea judah lost to baldomir but it was still a close fight and 1 of the main reasons he lost was because he ran for the majority of the fight once he got hurt by baldomir and judah was also more worried about his upcomin fight with floyd than he was with baldomir

[Reservation]

Manny Pacquiao. he won a title that didint exist, then won the welterweight title without actually fighting there. cotto won his belt at 147. while 141-147 is considered welterweight, the fact is, there was a set limit of 145 for cotto, so whatever.

Malfunction...

[jrosales13]

who did diaz fight at lightweight?did he fight corrales,castillo,freitas,juan diaz, cassamayor,nate campbell, katsidis? yea judah lost to baldomir but it was still a close fight and 1 of the main reasons he lost was because he ran for the majority of the fight once he got hurt by baldomir and judah was also more worried about his upcomin fight with floyd than he was with baldomir

Diaz did beat Santa Cruz who was top 10 fighter who Santa Cruz later got robbed by Casamayor. So that win is actually a pretty good win for Diaz. Anyway Diaz not a great win. But, is a better win than the Judah win. Were there better fighter than Diaz? Yes Campbell was, and was there better fighters than Judah? Yes there was. But, what makes Diaz a better win is that he did have a win against top 10 LW, was undefeated at that weight, and was legit champ. the weakest? Yes but legit.

While Zab lost to a guy like Baldomir, Zab got hurt by a guy who had 9ko's in over 40 fights, there is really no excuses on why Zab lost to a guy like Baldomir. I don't care what he was thinking of. He lost period no excuses. Think about it that is like me saying Margarito lost to P-Will cuz Margarito had a fight a lined up with Cotto (Which is true) And, was thinking about Cotto. But, think about it that is a BS excuse right? Margarito lost to a better man. Zab lost to a better man. Zab should of gotten the rematch with Baldomir, prove his worth and then fight Floyd.

[jrosales13]

You are nothing but a hater...

Good argument