How is Manny Pacquiao a "7 divisional titleist"?

[HaglerSteelChin]

I am not taking anything away from pac, but it all becomes subjective now with all these alphabet belts. Leonard and Mayweather won in 5 different divisions and all are from the 3 major sanctioning bodies WBC, IBF, WBA. DLH won in 6 if you count WBO's at 130 and 160(which we all know he lost to Sturm anyway). I think my standard is really only 4 should count-WBA WBO,WBC, and IBF. Ring Magazine has Kelly Pavlik as their Champ? Its a magazine which is the bible of boxing but its not a sanctioning body.

If we dont have any standards than we end up with the Camacho problem. Camacho won belts in 7 different weight classes as pac. But some were from the IBC. Camacho won the following:
130- WBC, NABF
135- WBC, NABF
140- WBO
147- IBC
154- WBE, IBC, WBF
160- IBC
168- NBA - not to be confused with Basketball LOL

[Mirko CROCOP]

wbc diamond belt?
LOL
The only belt on the line was the WBO, and it should have been, because the fight was not at welterweight.

It was only 1 pound about MAYWEATHERWEIGHT which is 144.


and your idol a steroid freak FLOYD JR. said that his fight which was as 144 is consider a WW fight

[jrosales13]

Lineal titles are not something you can vacate. I dont think Pavlik should be considered middleweight champion either, since he moved up in weight and got his ass beat. Calling Pac the lineal champ seems cheap to me.

Lineal champ is something you can vacate. Zsolt Erdei just vacated his lineal claim at 175. Floyd had a vacated 2 of them. Remember Floyd as was the lineal champ at 147 and then fought Oscar at 154 then came back down to defend his lineal best at 147 against Hatton.

Pavlik is a lineal champ... He was not campaigning as a LHW.

Henry Armstrong is a perfect example bro

[jrosales13]

Well if the stripping was unjust doesnt that follow the point that he should have been champion anyways? Baldomir should of had that belt and Floyd beat him. Instead he took if from someone else.

Well Baldomir would of probably been stripped from the IBF belt. But, Baldomir would of still been lineal champ. Which Floyd would of won regardless. The point was that Baldomir didn't get the IBF belt from Zab cuz he didn't pay the sanctioning fee. But, if he did is not a sure thing that he would of still had it when Floyd beat him.

[jrosales13]

wbc diamond belt?
LOL
The only belt on the line was the WBO, and it should have been, because the fight was not at welterweight.

Catchweights is nothing new bro. A WW fight is from 141-147. Chavez-Whitaker fought for the lineal title at WW in a catchweight of 145. It didn't diminish anything bro. There has been title fights at catchweight since the beginning of boxing. Is nothing new.

[letsgobrady]

How is PAVLIK lineal at 160 and he lost to HOPKINS when he moved up?

You are ****** idiot who doesnt know **** about boxing.

Go kill yourself.

ricky was stripped of the ibf title pavlik was not stripped of his tittles

[letsgobrady]

Lineal champ is something you can vacate. Zsolt Erdei just vacated his lineal claim at 175. Floyd had a vacated 2 of them. Remember Floyd as was the lineal champ at 147 and then fought Oscar at 154 then came back down to defend his lineal best at 147 against Hatton.

Pavlik is a lineal champ... He was not campaigning as a LHW.

Henry Armstrong is a perfect example bro

floyd had the wbc title at 147 right?

[King Koopa]

I am not taking anything away from pac, but it all becomes subjective now with all these alphabet belts. Leonard and Mayweather won in 5 different divisions and all are from the 3 major sanctioning bodies WBC, IBF, WBA. DLH won in 6 if you count WBO's at 130 and 160(which we all know he lost to Sturm anyway). I think my standard is really only 4 should count-WBA WBO,WBC, and IBF. Ring Magazine has Kelly Pavlik as their Champ? Its a magazine which is the bible of boxing but its not a sanctioning body.

If we dont have any standards than we end up with the Camacho problem. Camacho won belts in 7 different weight classes as pac. But some were from the IBC. Camacho won the following:
130- WBC, NABF
135- WBC, NABF
140- WBO
147- IBC
154- WBE, IBC, WBF
160- IBC
168- NBA - not to be confused with Basketball LOL

So...........damn, is Camacho a 7 division titleist as well?

[letsgobrady]

I am not taking anything away from pac, but it all becomes subjective now with all these alphabet belts. Leonard and Mayweather won in 5 different divisions and all are from the 3 major sanctioning bodies WBC, IBF, WBA. DLH won in 6 if you count WBO's at 130 and 160(which we all know he lost to Sturm anyway). I think my standard is really only 4 should count-WBA WBO,WBC, and IBF. Ring Magazine has Kelly Pavlik as their Champ? Its a magazine which is the bible of boxing but its not a sanctioning body.

If we dont have any standards than we end up with the Camacho problem. Camacho won belts in 7 different weight classes as pac. But some were from the IBC. Camacho won the following:
130- WBC, NABF
135- WBC, NABF
140- WBO
147- IBC
154- WBE, IBC, WBF
160- IBC
168- NBA - not to be confused with Basketball LOL

thats the same way i look at it

[Reservation]

The lineal title is arguably more prestigious than the 4 major sanctioning bodies so why wouldn't you count it?