Why did JMM have so much sucess aginst Pacman???

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  • Burner
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    #21
    Originally posted by Hank$Moody
    If you can't see any difference between Pac now and in 2004, I can't help you. His footwork is better, his right hand is better and his defense is better. And has his level of comp really been that bad in the last five years?
    He last fought JMM...in 2008.

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      #22
      Originally posted by crackyourjaw
      the obvious answer is that jmm is the man and an excellent counter-puncher.

      however, i think pacquiao was draining himself at 130, but still a very formidable opponent.
      interesting

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        #23
        Originally posted by Burner
        He last fought JMM...in 2008.
        Try to keep up. He was clearly drained for the second fight. In the first, he was not nearly as complete a fighter as he is today, or for the second for that matter.

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          #24
          simple, from the 2nd fight, jmm not only used his two hands he also employed his feet. not only once that he prevented manny to escape his right counter to his left by putting his left foot outside of mannys right foot then bam, manny was always in front of him for his right straight. in some occasions he even stepped on the right foot of manny. remember what hatton said "same move everytime", manny almost always steps/escapes to his right. if you will put your foot outside of mannys right foot timing him on his evasive move you can prevent him that way and he will be in front of your right straight. if one is lucky he can connect at the same time trip manny to the canvass when the ref might consider a KD. watch paC-jMm 2.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Hank$Moody
            147 fight night for a 130 lb fighter is drained. We're talking what? 13% rehydration? JMM doesn't stand a chance against Pac at 140+.
            Jmm's maximum weight is 135, However Marquez is a helluva lot better than Hatton or Cotto. Pacs also been rehydrating 10 pounds and more since his 126 days.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Hank$Moody
              Well he did get knocked down four times and Pac drained the hell out of himself to make 130 in the second fight. First time Pac was not nearly the fighter he is today and still dropped JMM 3 times in one round.
              LOL...

              Bull****.

              Packy looked pretty good against Morales in the rematches at 130.

              Marquez is just better than Packy and has his simple style figured out.

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                #27
                IMO What Burner is trying to say is.... anyone who thinks Pac beats Floyd is an idiot.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                  IMO What Burner is trying to say is.... anyone who thinks Pac beats Floyd is an idiot.
                  I give the *******s a pass for thinking that since they're using their heart.

                  But any objective fan who thinks that is an idiot.

                  Floyd is all kinds of wrong for Packy.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                    IMO What Burner is trying to say is.... anyone who thinks Pac beats Floyd is an idiot.
                    Nope..Jus wanna know why JMM made Pac look so human.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Burner
                      Nope..Jus wanna know why JMM made Pac look so human.
                      For the last time.....

                      CUZ HE'S AWESOME!!!

                      Truth be told, Morales also made him look human in 2 fights.

                      People forget he was up on all cards in the second fight at the time of the stoppage.

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