Why did JMM have so much sucess aginst Pacman???

[Burner]

Marquez is a master counter puncher and some other fighters would have stood down from all those K.Ds. Marquez is just that damn good.

Okay......Interesting.

[No Ceiling]

if pac coppied chiris john's style..

[Bushbaby]

Because Marquez is a great fighter at 135 & below & Manny clearly wouldn't be hurt by adding some weight!!So when Manny fought Marquez,he was in tip top form!!Not overweight & cheated against!!

[Jim Jeffries]

What changed?????

The only change I seen was his level of comp....

They got worse.....

If you can't see any difference between Pac now and in 2004, I can't help you. His footwork is better, his right hand is better and his defense is better. And has his level of comp really been that bad in the last five years?

[street bully]

Well he did get knocked down four times and Pac drained the hell out of himself to make 130 in the second fight. First time Pac was not nearly the fighter he is today and still dropped JMM 3 times in one round.

I don't think Pacquiao was drained. He was fast and his stamina was as good as ever.

[razor.thin]

Probably because Pac wasn't on steroids at the time. Steroided out Pac will KO Marquez now.

steroids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[civicvx]

Pee Pee drink.

[street bully]

If you can't see any difference between Pac now and in 2004, I can't help you. His footwork is better, his right hand is better and his defense is better. And has his level of comp really been that bad in the last five years?

manny is improved since 2004, but the pacquiao who fought jmm in 2008 is not much different from this one a year later.

[CrackYourJaw]

The obvious answer is that JMM is the man and an excellent counter-puncher.

However, I think Pacquiao was draining himself at 130, but still a very formidable opponent.



I dunno, maybe he wasn't drained per se, but he wasn't as healthy as he is at JWW and WW.

[Jim Jeffries]

I don't think Pacquiao was drained. He was fast and his stamina was as good as ever.

147 fight night for a 130 lb fighter is drained. We're talking what? 13% rehydration? JMM doesn't stand a chance against Pac at 140+.