Why did JMM have so much sucess aginst Pacman???

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  • supRa
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    #51
    co sign wat dom said....

    wowowowow manny was drained n the 2nd fight!?!? thats a first 4 me....
    so accordin 2 ur logic if manny has troble n a bout = drained?!!? **** outta here... manny has a super body he could of handled that ****..
    marquez was robbed on that 2nd fight its all about the cake $$$
    dinamita counter punching style is the best n the game...

    that drained comment is just wow... am sure he's flip

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    • MakeDamnSure
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      #52
      Originally posted by supRa
      co sign wat dom said....

      wowowowow manny was drained n the 2nd fight!?!? thats a first 4 me....
      so accordin 2 ur logic if manny has troble n a bout = drained?!!? **** outta here... manny has a super body he could of handled that ****..
      marquez was robbed on that 2nd fight its all about the cake $$$
      dinamita counter punching style is the best n the game...

      that drained comment is just wow... am sure he's flip
      Pacquiao was supposed to fight Diaz first at 135 and defend it against Marquez. Pacquiao almost didn't eat for 2 straight days just to make the weight.

      Pac fans never bring that topic up because they never make excuses. Floyd fans and the mexicans knows that **** so they never bring that topic off because they know a 140+ pound Pacquiao would KO Marquez in round 1

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      • zeidrich
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        #53
        Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
        Pacquiao was supposed to fight Diaz first at 135 and defend it against Marquez. Pacquiao almost didn't eat for 2 straight days just to make the weight.

        Pac fans never bring that topic up because they never make excuses. Floyd fans and the mexicans knows that **** so they never bring that topic off because they know a 140+ pound Pacquiao would KO Marquez in round 1
        he didnt eat for 2 days? daamn
        anyway, pac is happy in 140 now, he should never go back down @ 135..

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          #54
          Originally posted by zeidrich
          he didnt eat for 2 days? daamn
          anyway, pac is happy in 140 now, he should never go back down @ 135..
          Here is the link Pacquiao was starving to death just to make the weight with his rematch with Barrera. That happen before his rematch with Marquez.

          Pacquiao had hard time making 130-lb weigh-in

          http://www.gmanews.tv/willtowin/video/12560/120

          The only reason why Pac agreed to fight at 130 was because of the title/ Ring/ Lineal at stake before going up in weight. That is something Gayweather would never do.

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            #55
            Another Link where Roach said that Pac was weight drained trying to make 130 with his rematch with Barrera

            Pacquiao going for KO after weight problem

            By Recah Trinidad
            Inquirer
            First Posted 20:32:00 10/06/2007


            LAS VEGAS--A gaunt, ghostly figure officially identified as Manny Pacquiao of the Philippines was certified ready on Friday (Saturday in Manila) for his monumental rematch with muscular Mexican Marco Antonio Barrera at the Events Center of the Mandalay Bay Hotel here.

            Based on the displayed physical discrepancy, the bout would’ve been disallowed if it were to have been promptly fought after Friday’s weigh-in.


            The two warriors square off Saturday for the second time in an anticipated classic made doubly suspenseful following the confirmation of a Pacquiao weight problem.

            Fight time is 8 p.m. Saturday here (Sunday 11 a.m. in Manila).

            “Knockout!” blurted Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach when asked for his final battle order after Friday’s dramatic weigh-in.

            That means the 28-year-old Pacquiao, who hardly looked his robust, blazing self on top of the stage Friday, will have to push, carry out a sustained offensive for every minute of each round as specified in the original battle plan laid out by Roach.


            “He’s drawn, drained, but he will be OK, he can do it,” an unusually glum Roach told the Philippine Daily Inquirer (parent company of INQUIRER.net).

            Pacquiao, (44-3-2, with 35 KOs) remains the hot favorite to retain his WBC International super featherweight belt, reserved for boxers
            rated 11th and lower by the sanctioning body.

            Barrera, 33, was stopped in the 11th round by Pacquiao when they fought in 2003 for the Ring Magazine featherweight title at the Alamodome in Texas.

            Barrera (63-5, with 42 KOs) said this will be his last fight regardless of the outcome.

            Pacquiao, in the summer of a spectacular career, was again the heavy favorite, as in his previous fights in the 130-lb division, after having reigned as WBC flyweight champion and IBF super bantamweight title-holder.

            Barrera has ruled as world super bantamweight, featherweight and super featherweight champion, having lost to WBC 130-lb King Juan Manuel Marquez in a title fight last March.

            The bare-chested Barrera kept flexing his muscles after checking in at 130-lb, the super featherweight limit to the chants and cheers of an adoring Mexican crowd.

            There was an eerie silence when Pacquiao stepped slowly, gingerly like an apparition, onto the weighing scales.


            Filipinos similarly erupted for their celebrated countryman who encountered his first major weight obstacle since hitting it big-time.

            Barrera would snag a bottle of red-colored juice drink and take a quick gulp after successfully weighing in.

            Pacquiao appeared more famished but, in a display of depth and resiliency, the Filipino boxing superstar moved out quietly, in the process putting back his necklace and giving the crowd a sign of the cross with his right hand, without touching a badly needed drink.

            Scheduled to be unveiled in the main event is a new Pacquiao weapon, perfected almost in secret at the Wild Card gym upon his return from training in the Philippines, which culminates in a speared shot to the body.

            “Problems solved,” said a Team Pacquiao insider with nutritional basics three hours after the Pacman had passed the laborious weight test.

            The last time Pacquiao encountered a similar problem in 1999, he was stripped of his WBC flyweight crown and was knocked out the following day in Thailand.

            The reliable informant said Pacquiao was primarily given pedialyte with lots of sugar after the weigh-in to restore blood and water balance.

            Desired results were manifested an hour later through correct body moisture.

            Pacquiao later had steaming chicken tinola and rice and should be back to perfect fighting form in time for the fight.

            It could not, however, be determined if the forced draining would be felt if and when the 12-round bout goes the distance.

            “Maybe yes, maybe no, because the body takes at least two days to fully recover from severe draining,” he said.


            There were concerned calls on whether or not Pacquiao made the weight following Saturday’s Inquirer report on the mysterious excess poundage of the boxing hero.

            Pacquiao woke up Friday three pounds over and, instead of jogging, he was made to work on the treadmill inside the hotel spa.

            He perspired after a lengthy drill and was measured to have lost at least two pounds after a rub-down.

            He was given rest to allow body moisture to return to normal before the final move to get rid of the one and final excess pound.

            There’s the prevailing popular feel that Pacquiao, a -340 favorite, would not be outfought in the main bout.

            There has emerged, however, a chance to outbox or outpoint the RP prizefight star based on Friday’s developments.

            “He will make the weight, but this thing will definitely have an effect,” said the eminent boxing scholar Larry Merchant, pointing a finger to his gray head.

            Barrera is a +280 underdog, meaning a $100 bet could pay $280 if the Mexican triumphs.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Burner
              Nope..Jus wanna know why JMM made Pac look so human.
              pac is no wizard in the ring, he is just fast, strong and unconventional. His technical skills are not excellent but he has a hell of a beard and coaxes people into wars. Floyd is a technical wizard and will have at least 6 months to prepare for pac's style.

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                #57
                Originally posted by VictoriaBeckham
                For the last time.....

                CUZ HE'S AWESOME!!!

                Truth be told, Morales also made him look human in 2 fights.

                People forget he was up on all cards in the second fight at the time of the stoppage.
                Negative...

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by TheUptownKid
                  pac is no wizard in the ring, he is just fast, strong and unconventional. His technical skills are not excellent but he has a hell of a beard and coaxes people into wars. Floyd is a technical wizard and will have at least 6 months to prepare for pac's style.
                  Interesting...........

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                    #59
                    JMM is a smart accurate couter puncher. when pac came forward he walked into counters and it threw him off rhythm

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                      #60
                      I want to know why castillo had success against floyd. I dont want to know why JMM did well against Pac. Probably because JMM at the weight is one of the best boxers on the planet, and Pac wasnt in his prime and weight drained.

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