Mayweather vs Pacquiao PPV Buys: Comparison Side by Side

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  • Bhopreign
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    #211
    Originally posted by S a m u r a i
    LOLWTF!

    Why would it? Cotto isn't anywhere near as popular as Oscar.
    I thought if you beat Oscar youre guaranteed PPV sucess, what gives.

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    • baCCaT
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      #212
      having the higher amount of PPVs against common opponent gives leverage to an upcoming fight, but imo its not the one and only basis for who gets the bigger percentage.
      there wouldnt be any negotiations, if that were the case.

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        #213
        Originally posted by Zuma
        Everybody knows that Oscar de la Hoya is the non-heavyweight PPV king. Mayweather and Paccquiao become famous through De la Hoya halo effect.*

        Here's a side by side comparison of Pacquiao and Mayweather before and after De la Hoya made them more famous.


        Mayweather's Highest PPV before De la Hoya:

        Zab Judah - 374,000
        Arturo Gatti - 365,000
        Carlos Baldomir - 325,000

        TOTAL : 1,064,000


        Pacquiao's Highest PPV Fights before De la Hoya:

        Juan Manuel Marquez Rematch - 400,000
        Erik Morales 3rd Match - 360,000
        Marco Antonio Barrera Rematch - 350,000

        TOTAL: 1,110,000


        Now, here's both of their PPV buys AFTER De la Hoya. You can see that it increased considerably:

        Mayweather Fights after De la Hoya

        Juan Manuel Marquez - 1,050,000
        Ricky Hatton - 925,000

        TOTAL: 1,975,000


        Pacquiao Fights after De la Hoya

        Miguel Cotto - 1,250,000
        Ricky Hatton - 850,000

        TOTAL: 2,100,000


        If we take the 2 highest PPV buys of their pre-Oscar fights and compare them with after-Oscar fights PPV buys, here's what it would look like:




        * Halo Effect - a cognitive bias whereby the perception of a particular trait is influenced by the perception of the former traits.
        This comparison is very misleading. This is the equivalent of conservative politicians in America saying George Bush kept us safe from *********s for seven years, ignoring the fact that 3,500 people died in a ********* attack on 9/11 in his first year in office.

        Manny Pacquio had more PPV buys after De La Hoya, but he had a better PPV opponent in Cotto than Mayweather had in Marquez. The question is how many PPV buys would Pacquaio sell against Marquez now or how many would Mayweather sell against Cotto now. That is the only way to make a fair comparison.

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        • boxer2k5
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          #214
          Originally posted by Bhopreign
          Nice way to waste your time with comparing fights that dont matter. Compare their common opponents PPV's that they faced. That would be Hatton, Oscar, and Marquez, those numbers tell you all you need to know. Just because you fought Oscar that has nothing to do with how well you will do PPV-wise in future fights. It didnt boost Hopkins' numbers nor anybody else, Floyd has hustled and marketed himself into a global icon by doing television shows and keeping his name relevant.
          i agree. because it didnt make mosley a star. and mayweather did millions after oscar yeah oscar help him become a star but they broke records becase of who oscar was fighting. oscar didnt always sell a million ppvs he only did it with floyd trinidad and pac i believe.

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            #215
            Originally posted by alexpz
            Your becoming delusional Bhopreign. Well that's your opinion then and I think I just to respect it.

            Well the only way to know is Floyd and Manny will fight the same opponent "AGAIN".

            If your saying Floyd fight Cotto then ok. Let's see their ppv sales. Then let's see the rematch of Manny and Cotto and see if how much ppv they make again.
            but they have fought common opponents. 3 of them. so who sales are higher?
            stop trying to predict future fights because there is no facts with that. dont compare old fights with different opponents because of the difference in draws.
            jsut compare the ****ing common opponents that all you pacheads keep dodging. and who has the higher sales. who makes more money each fight. pac made 7 mill for cotto floyd was doing that years ago. before ppv. mayweather is bigger star if manny fought marquez in nov and mayweather fought cotto in sept you can pretty much bet that pac vs marquez was not hitting 1 mill buys and you can bet cotto vs mayweather was doing 1.20+ buys

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            • boxer2k5
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              #216
              Originally posted by S a m u r a i
              Well? What is he talking about? I have no clue, to be honest.

              "If Floyd Mayweather fought Oscar de la Hoya in the 2nd fight

              What is "the second fight"?

              ... then you will never hear about Manny Pacquiao. Things happen like this in the sports of boxing"



              Floyd seems like a complete dumbass. Maybe it's how he worded it? I dunno.

              after the hatton fight floyd was going to fight oscar in rematch but then retired. oscar then fights forbes instead n then manny. floyd means if he fought rematch he would prob ended oscar right then n there and manny would have never fought oscar or oscar would have fought hatton and prob retired

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              • Zuma
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                #217
                Originally posted by boxer2k5
                stop trying to predict future fights because there is no facts with that.

                mayweather is bigger star IF manny fought marquez in nov and mayweather fought cotto in sept you can pretty much bet that pac vs marquez was not hitting 1 mill buys and you can bet cotto vs mayweather was doing 1.20+ buys
                Contradicting logic: You said "stop trying to predict future fights", then after a few sentence you try to predict future fights.

                Make up your mind will 'ya.

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                  #218
                  I don't understand the argument here. They have common opponents. Why not just compare them instead of all the speculation?

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                  • El Jesus
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                    #219
                    its crazy yall going through all of this and wont see a dime out of it.

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                    • johnm is...
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                      #220
                      Damn. Dude made a chart.

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