Team Mayweather Response: Pacquiao is Not a Bigger Star

[Ray*]

Whether people like it or not each fighter would get what they deserve to get, People who are on the outside can ***** and moan all they want about who deserves what but the people on the inside knows who would end up with the lionshare based on the facts and statistic that people like us dont see.

[alexpz]

That's the problem with Floyd, he always contradicts himself.

Not only he used as an excuse not to fight Mosley or Cotto on that video because they can't sell and JMM has a country behind him, but know he says that Pacman sold more than him because Cotto is a bigger draw than JMM.

And to add to his contradictions and after all he had said about Mosley, after seeing the beat down that Pacman gave Cotto, he finally turns around and says he will consider Mosley, when its well known that Pacman will generate more than Mosley.

True that he is a great fighter and True that he can probably beat Pacman or Mosley but tha fact is that everytime he opens his mouth he gives more reasons to have people beleive that he does duck the most riskiest opponents out there. Not saying that it is true but the way he speaks he just shoots himself with his own weapon, in regards to most of the boxing world public and fan opinion.

Floyd, just accept the 50/50 and win probably the the biggest money of your career and while doing so, clear out any bad opinion about you not wanting to face the riskiest fighters of the moment. Nobody can blame you for taking the biggest money fights vs the riskiest fight in the past but this time around, the biggest risk is actuall by far the biggest payday out there also.

This is not only a lifetime fight in boxing history, it will be the lifetime fight of your career and legacy in the sport. You know how some remember DLH as one of the greatest fighters that failed to win the big fight. If you don't take this fight, You might be remembered as one of the greatest fighters to not take a high risk fight.

Pacman, It has been said that this week there will be a meeting with Schaefer and Arum in order to start negitiations for the PBF fight. Well give him a 50/50 @ 147 fight chance, and if he doesn't agree on the 1st meeting, go fight Mosley for a 60/40 spilt which would probably generate for you the same amount or more than the Cotto fight, something that PBF won't be able to do with no other boxer right now. Here comes the good part for you, if you do beat Mosley than PBF will only have to accept a 60/40 fight in your favor after that. If you lose, your legacy will be intact and then you can go back and do what you want, either go to politics or even have a JMM-Pacman trilogy and make some more money. It's a win-win situation for you.

Yeah Floyd always contradicts himself. That's who he is. I think no one can change him. It's his style.

[pugay_kamay]

That's the problem with Floyd, he always contradicts himself.

Not only he used as an excuse not to fight Mosley or Cotto on that video because they can't sell and JMM has a country behind him, but know he says that Pacman sold more than him because Cotto is a bigger draw than JMM.

And to add to his contradictions and after all he had said about Mosley, after seeing the beat down that Pacman gave Cotto, he finally turns around and says he will consider Mosley, when its well known that Pacman will generate more than Mosley.

True that he is a great fighter and True that he can probably beat Pacman or Mosley but tha fact is that everytime he opens his mouth he gives more reasons to have people beleive that he does duck the most riskiest opponents out there. Not saying that it is true but the way he speaks he just shoots himself with his own weapon, in regards to most of the boxing world public and fan opinion.

Floyd, just accept the 50/50 and win probably the the biggest money of your career and while doing so, clear out any bad opinion about you not wanting to face the riskiest fighters of the moment. Nobody can blame you for taking the biggest money fights vs the riskiest fight in the past but this time around, the biggest risk is actuall by far the biggest payday out there also.

This is not only a lifetime fight in boxing history, it will be the lifetime fight of your career and legacy in the sport. You know how some remember DLH as one of the greatest fighters that failed to win the big fight. If you don't take this fight, You might be remembered as one of the greatest fighters to not take a high risk fight.

Pacman, It has been said that this week there will be a meeting with Schaefer and Arum in order to start negitiations for the PBF fight. Well give him a 50/50 @ 147 fight chance, and if he doesn't agree on the 1st meeting, go fight Mosley for a 60/40 spilt which would probably generate for you the same amount or more than the Cotto fight, something that PBF won't be able to do with no other boxer right now. Here comes the good part for you, if you do beat Mosley than PBF will only have to accept a 60/40 fight in your favor after that. If you lose, your legacy will be intact and then you can go back and do what you want, either go to politics or even have a JMM-Pacman trilogy and make some more money. It's a win-win situation for you.

Co-sign! Nice post PRSI!

[HandSpeed303]

Nice....



On A Side Note: Not a Pac fan (though I have watched pretty much all of his fights that I can remember) not a Floyd fan (though I have seen most all of his fights as well), point is, this is an unbiased statement.

It still baffles me to this day how brain dead Floyds fan base is....I mean it is unreal. They will support anything that comes from his camp. Instead of just saying 50/50 make the fight happen, they are more concerned about who the bigger star is, and PPV numbers.

Now I know some Pac fans are guilty too, but you Floyd fans take it to another level. Look....

Floyd was out of boxing for almost 2 years, he comes back and pulls a fighter 2 weight class out of his normal weight class(or one he just moved up to), and just because he SO CALLED CAME BACK TO FIGHT PAC, that is all forgotten, and folks act as if he never left. He did, turned his back on the sport, and YOU!

To be all real, Pac desreves the bigger split based on body of work alone. When Floyd left the sport, and threw a hissy fit, his hope was that boxing would die without him, and come crawling back....Only his fans reacted this way. Boxing itself moved on, and Pac took boxing on his shoulders and brought the sport back into the spotlight.

50/50 STFU!!! Get this fight crack'in!!!!!!!

[alexpz]

yeah just make this fight happen.. 50/50 147lbs.

I hope both side could agree and sign the contract right away..

[andrew14]

Who said bigger???

Manny is the BIGGEST SUPERSTAR now not PBF.

[The Great Shark]

Nice....



On A Side Note: Not a Pac fan (though I have watched pretty much all of his fights that I can remember) not a Floyd fan (though I have seen most all of his fights as well), point is, this is an unbiased statement.

It still baffles me to this day how brain dead Floyds fan base is....I mean it is unreal. They will support anything that comes from his camp. Instead of just saying 50/50 make the fight happen, they are more concerned about who the bigger star is, and PPV numbers.

Now I know some Pac fans are guilty too, but you Floyd fans take it to another level. Look....

Floyd was out of boxing for almost 2 years, he comes back and pulls a fighter 2 weight class out of his normal weight class(or one he just moved up to), and just because he SO CALLED CAME BACK TO FIGHT PAC, that is all forgotten, and folks act as if he never left. He did, turned his back on the sport, and YOU!

To be all real, Pac desreves the bigger split based on body of work alone. When Floyd left the sport, and threw a hissy fit, his hope was that boxing would die without him, and come crawling back....Only his fans reacted this way. Boxing itself moved on, and Pac took boxing on his shoulders and brought the sport back into the spotlight.

50/50 STFU!!! Get this fight crack'in!!!!!!!

Not a big fan of Mayweather but as a true fan of boxing you've gotta love his countering abilities.

Now, the only reason I see why numbers, statistics and all the PPV buys bull**** come up is because people on here get personal and start to justify who's the bigger draw and who rightfully deserves more. The only real way is to have it 50/50 like everyone and their mothers have states or have an incentive if someone knocks someone out they get 5-10% more.

[HandSpeed303]

Not a big fan of Mayweather but as a true fan of boxing you've gotta love his countering abilities.

Now, the only reason I see why numbers, statistics and all the PPV buys bull**** come up is because people on here get personal and start to justify who's the bigger draw and who rightfully deserves more. The only real way is to have it 50/50 like everyone and their mothers have states or have an incentive if someone knocks someone out they get 5-10% more.

I agree 100%. I guess you can say I'm a fan of both. I enjoy every fight they take part in.

I just don't hug one single fighter (or even two for that matter...Paul Williams/every Floyd fans back up plan. I like Paul Williams by the way).

I'm a fan of boxing, not A boxer.

[cottofan2]

In my opinion, here's why I think the fight definitely gets made and why Mayweather is gonna do whatever he can to squeeze every dollar from this fight that he can. For the first time, I don't think it's 100% about ego or greed. I truly believe that he is looking at this as his last fight (Win, lose, or draw). He is frustrated with the sport and feels like he can't win with the fans, the media, and is even disrespected by other boxers. Though he has natural skills, I don't think he loves the sport and I believe if he didn't have any money problems, he would have stayed retired. This fight is his way out. It would take 4 or 5 more headaches/promotions to get this kind of money. The reason I think it may work, by the way, is that Pacquiao does love the sport and $40-45 mil instead of $50 mil is not gonna stop this fight from happening if your Pacquiao knowing that a Mosley fight would make you around $20 mil and everybody else makes you even less. Again, this is my opinion, not a fact.

[prsi]

In my opinion, here's why I think the fight definitely gets made and why Mayweather is gonna do whatever he can to squeeze every dollar from this fight that he can. For the first time, I don't think it's 100% about ego or greed. I truly believe that he is looking at this as his last fight (Win, lose, or draw). He is frustrated with the sport and feels like he can't win with the fans, the media, and is even disrespected by other boxers. Though he has natural skills, I don't think he loves the sport and I believe if he didn't have any money problems, he would have stayed retired. This fight is his way out. It would take 4 or 5 more headaches/promotions to get this kind of money. The reason I think it may work, by the way, is that Pacquiao does love the sport and $40-45 mil instead of $50 mil is not gonna stop this fight from happening if your Pacquiao knowing that a Mosley fight would make you around $20 mil and everybody else makes you even less. Again, this is my opinion, not a fact.

Cottofan, I truely understand and respect your opinion and makes sense on some angles, but what happens if that same guy that you well described as the guy who loves the sport (Pacquiao), actually gets tired of PBF tactics and tells his promoter to go for Mosley or JMM III.

Remember that we are talking about a little poor kid that grew up to be an icon of a sport and still remans as humble as the word itself. I see in Pacman a guy that has 2 options, make this Huge big payday and retire to politics or have 2 more big paydays (noticed I left out the word Huge) against Mosley and JMM and then retire healthy and rich.

The truth is that for the same reasons you well described from PBF and how he feels towards the sport, fans and the media, it is precisely PBF not Pacman, who needs this fight the most. Not necessarily for money but for his legacy in the sport.

Pacman has been fighting to become the best fighter and boxer of his Generation.

Floyd has been fighting to become the richest and biggest star of his Generation.

Both are accomplishing their goals, but 20 years from now when everybody will be talking about the Pacman being the best fighter of his Generation, not even the millions that Floyd might have at that time will make him happy hearing that.

Just like you said Floyd. "IT'S TIME TO STEP IT UP"