Home town judging the standard in USA.

[Tom_Tocca]

Hmmmmm......... Who's that ref? Does he have a reputation?

The Ref is about the same level (in terms of experience) as the Canadian judge in the Abraham - Taylor fight...

[ToneyLightsOut]

Ward will knock this bum out

[Hitman932]

The Ref is about the same level (in terms of experience) as the Canadian judge in the Abraham - Taylor fight...

I haven't seen that much of him but he has done a pretty good job in the few fights I remember seeing him which were Arreola-Walker and Quintana-Williams I.

Looking over his judging record I can't see any DQ's nor can I even confirm a single point deduction he has made in the past year.

I don't expect he will have much to do with two fighters as skilled and classy as Kessler and Ward.

[BattlingNelson]

I had to do the routine because Annie cried about someone else doing it earlier.

I will say though that in 5 years on this forum and having discussed boxing with people from several Euro countries the great majority seem to have a huge chip on their shoulder when it comes to the US. They think it's a country filled with liars and cheats and they applaud out international failures and cheer out losses without even being able to explain why.

As someone who is proudly 50% Hungarian and 50% American I am truly glad that I have been able to enjoy the best of both worlds and understand exactly how pathetic and pointless the xenophobia is.

Hungarian?

You do know that Erdei sucks don't you?

I have a nice picture of him from earlier today. Looks like he'll enter his fight with an eye already blackened by a sparringpartner :lol1.

[Hitman932]

Hungarian?

You do know that Erdei sucks don't you?

I have a nice picture of him from earlier today. Looks like he'll enter his fight with an eye already blackened by a sparringpartner :lol1.

Did you not know that I am Hungarian?

Or are you taking the piss now?

And don't talk any mess about Zsolt Erdei. If he has a black eye it's only because he spars the toughest SOB's around.

He's gonna whoop Fragomeni's ass and then he will be an undefeated World Champion at two separate weights that are 25 pounds apart.

Look how much respect Manny P gets for jumping 25 pounds!

[BattlingNelson]

Btw, the CSAC has reacted and replaced both Cali judges by 2 others (probably 1 from the US and 1 international).
Though, the referee is still going to be Mr. Reiss...

According to ekstrabladet.dk the judges have now been changed. It'll be Steve Morrow (California), Stanley Christodoulou (South Africa) andog Michael Höök (Sweden).

[Hitman932]

Hungarian?

You do know that Erdei sucks don't you?

I have a nice picture of him from earlier today. Looks like he'll enter his fight with an eye already blackened by a sparringpartner :lol1.

and btw, Erdei may "suck" but Laszo Papp is the greatest boxer who ever lived.

If it weren't for communism he would have **** on Marciano's record.

[Hyde]

According to ekstrabladet.dk the judges have now been changed. It'll be Steve Morrow (California), Stanley Christodoulou (South Africa) andog Michael Höök (Sweden).

If I remember correctly I think this guy had Valuev winning over Holyfield in December last year....

[BattlingNelson]

Did you not know that I am Hungarian?

Or are you taking the piss now?

And don't talk any mess about Zsolt Erdei. If he has a black eye it's only because he spars the toughest SOB's around.

He's gonna whoop Fragomeni's ass and then he will be an undefeated World Champion at two separate weights that are 25 pounds apart.

Look how much respect Manny P gets for jumping 25 pounds!

Erdei p4p no. 1 today.

and btw, Erdei may "suck" but Laszo Papp is the greatest boxer who ever lived.

If it weren't for communism he would have **** on Marciano's record.

Papp would have been the GOAT.

If I remember correctly I think this guy had Valuev winning over Holyfield in December last year....

So? Almost all reporters at ringside had Valuev winning. Only those watching on crappy streams or with lousy scoring HBO commentating had Holyfield winning big.

For the record I had Holyfield up with a point.

[BattlingNelson]

The referee is important too. Goossen's California referee may try to protect Ward and let him hold and headbutt as much as he wants.

Yeah. Kessler wont get any gifts that's for sure. The cards are still stacked against him.