Home town judging the standard in USA.

[johnm is...]

You can pretty much put together a list like this for any country. I agree that there's been many robberies take place in America. But you acting like it's only happening here, is no better than the people acting like it only happens in Germany, England, etc.

It doesn't matter what we say, because at the end of the day, this is still boxing, and there's going to be controversy no matter where the fights take place.

[BattlingNelson]

I'm surprised this is coming from you, Bat. You're a good poster and everyone with common sense knows the situation in Oakland is ****ty.

Robberies can happen anywhere. They aren't bound to any one specific state, country, continent, etc.

The point was that the yank system is flawed and that robberies aint a european phenomenon. The examples I provided should give some food for thought. I'm pretty sick of of all those yanks that claim the US to be boxings unbiased Mecca.

I hope for Kessler to get a fair and not neccesarily friendly treatment as I hope for all travelling fighters.

[goldenglove2]

In the wake of the uproar over Goosens (CSAC's) selection of home-town judges and ref in this weekends upcoming fight between house-fighter André Ward and visitor Mikkel Kessler from Denmark a fellow poster on a danish forum came up with the following examples that shows that this is quite an everyday occurrence in America:

Mayweather, Nevada, USA vs. Hatton, England,
WBC, fought in Nevada.
Judges all from Mayweathers homestate:
Paul Smith, Nevada, USA
Burt Clements, Nevada, USA
Dave Moretti, Nevada, USA

Mayweather, Nevada, USA vs. Baldomir, Argentina,
WBC, fought in Nevada,
2 out of 3 judges from Mayweathers homestate:
Chuck Giampa, Nevada, USA
John Keane, England
Paul Smith, Nevada, USA

Dawson, Connecticut, USA vs. Mendoza, Columbia,
WBC, fought in Califonia,
2 out 3 judges from the USA:
John Keane, England
James Jen-Kin, California, USA
Duane Ford, Nevada, USA

Devon Alexander, Missouri, USA vs. Junior Witter, England,
WBC, fought in California,
2 out 3 judges from the USA:
Benjamin Rendon, Mexico
Jerry Cantu, California, USA
Glen Trowbridge, Nevada, USA

Chris John, Indonesien vs. Rocky Juarez, Texas, USA,WBA,
Fought in Houston Texas,
All 3 judges from USA, one from Juarez' homestate:
Tom Miller, Ohio, USA
Raul Caiz, California, USA
Gale Van Hoy, Texas, USA
HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL DECISION!

Cory Spinks, Missouri, USA vs. Roman Karmazin, Rusland,
IBF, fought in Missouri,
All 3 judges from USA, one from Spinks' homestate:
Gerry Griffin, Missouri, USA
Melvina Lathan, New York, USA
Manfred Küchler, Germany

Felix Sturm, Germany vs. Oscar De La Hoya, USA
WBO, fought in Nevada.
All 3 judges from USA
Mike Glienna, USA
Paul Smith, USA
Dave Moretti, USA
HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL DECISION

Axel Schulz, Germany vs. George Foreman, USA
WBO, fought in Nevada.
All 3 judges from USA
Jerry Roth, USA
Keith McDonald, USA
Chuck Giampa, USA
HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL DECISION



It's easy to compile an even longer list.


YOU ARE ALWAYS TREATED FAIRLY IN AMERICA.

Can you give us the judges for every Ricky Hatton fight, prior to him coming to the US? thanks.

[Shadows]

The point was that the yank system is flawed and that robberies aint a european phenomenon. The examples I provided should give some food for thought. I'm pretty sick of of all those yanks that claim the US to be boxings unbiased Mecca.

I hope for Kessler to get a fair and not neccesarily friendly treatment as I hope for all travelling fighters.

And like I said, reasonable posters with common sense understand that.

It seems as though you're trying to alter the views of trolls and biased, ignorant posters, which is a hopeless endeavor.

[Roger Mellie]

European boxers have to go to America to get recognition.

'Euro' boxers have to go to america to get buttf.ucked more like,unless of course they can score a ko. It has always made me laugh to hear them **** on about robberies. They invented that ****!

[BattlingNelson]

And like I said, reasonable posters with common sense understand that.

It seems as though you're trying to alter the views of trolls and biased, ignorant posters, which is a hopeless endeavor.

Oh yeah. Still I made the post and I'll bookmark my TS to slap in the face of the ignorant trolls in due time.

[Shadows]

Oh yeah. Still I made the post and I'll bookmark my TS to slap in the face of the ignorant trolls in due time.

If that's your intention, then so be it.

[deanrw]

This bothers me also. If it was in Vegas and they had three American judges, it would bother me still but Vegas is usually fair unless they are protecting one of their financial cows.

In Ward's home town, Three American Judges etc to me is just looking for trouble.

This smells wrong and I really hope Kessler's camp protests this before it is too late.

[BattlingNelson]

This bothers me also. If it was in Vegas and they had three American judges, it would bother me still but Vegas is usually fair unless they are protecting one of their financial cows.

In Ward's home town, Three American Judges etc to me is just looking for trouble.

This smells wrong and I really hope Kessler's camp protests this before it is too late.

They have protested. But at this late a time it's impossible to get a eurojudge flown in because the US paperwork takes too long. They'll likely have to settle for judges from other parts of the United States.

[deanrw]

They have protested. But at this late a time it's impossible to get a eurojudge flown in because the US paperwork takes too long. They'll likely have to settle for judges from other parts of the United States.

How about a Mexican and a Canadian Judge? At least that will balance it somewhat. Better than nothing. Definitely better than what is taking place now.