Where have all the tough guys gone

[Tha Greatest]

Sorry fella, but you gonna need to read up on it further... London Prize ring rules stopped being used in the 1850's.

ALL BOXING IS GOVERNED BY THE MARQUIS OF QUEENSBERRY RULES - THOSE ARE THE RULES OF BOXING!



I don't wanna sound harsh here but it's true, 75% of boxing fans don't know the in's and out's of what boxing really is about (You seem to be falling into that catagory). How can you box and have never been taught the Marquis of Quensberry rules?... SHOCKING! ... I don't wanna be rude, but it sounds like you're doing back garden boxing?

Pepsi Cola, Macdonalds, Pizza, Computer games, etc, etc, It's very niave to not see the corruption behind the boxing scene's (seeing as it's so obvious!). It's prize fighting at the end of the day, professional boxing is not a sport, it's prize fighting. Amateur boxing, Yeah sure that's a sport. But not in the pro ranks.

It's all about money, and where it's coming from... And that all tends to fall on the American TV networks. They're paying for it and the American people don't wanna pay to see a Thai fight a Russian. So it's made up!... P4P the best fighters in the World aren't Americans... They're Mexicans and Thai's And Pueto Rican's, and many other Countries...

It's a business... Not a sport.

You are weird my friend...

Best fighters in the world are Americans, yes other countries have some good fighters to


but USA will KILL England in boxing

KILL KILL KILL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hearns, Louis, Hagler, Robinson, Leonard, Pryor, Ali, Foreman, Marciano, Taylor, Whitaker, Tyson, Roy Jones Jr., Hopkins, Toney, De La Hoya, etc.

[simeraksou]

These days, it's hard to get tough without risking getting stabbed or shot.
And I don't see anything wrong with kids that are pampered or modernized. Kid's are better off indoors than in the streets. And I never got this "tough" thing. Better to resolve arguments with words than fists. Sure when push comes to shove, you defend yourself, but what's so great about acting tough? Seriously, what?

guy, hot chicks dig you if you act tough

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

Sorry fella, but you gonna need to read up on it further... London Prize ring rules stopped being used in the 1850's.

ALL BOXING IS GOVERNED BY THE MARQUIS OF QUEENSBERRY RULES - THOSE ARE THE RULES OF BOXING!

I said no one refers to them anymore. And that's true, 100%. When boxing comes on HBO/Showtime/ESPN, etc. they do not say "Here are the Queensbury Rules of Boxing." They say something like "the rules of the fight are agrred upon by the United Assoc. of Boxing Commissions."

Sorry fella, but you gonna need to read up on it further... London Prize ring rules stopped being used in the 1850's.

Thanks for parroting what I already said. Pay attention.

75% of boxing fans don't know the in's and out's of what boxing really is about (You seem to be falling into that catagory). How can you box and have never been taught the Marquis of Quensberry rules?... SHOCKING! ... I don't wanna be rude, but it sounds like you're doing back garden boxing?

Few people know or care about those rules, brother, in that regard that they are called the "Queensbury Rules". Of course we know the rules, but no one calls them that. It's not really shocking at all. Knowing the ins and out of boxing has nothing to do with knowing that the rules used to be called the "Queensbury Rules". he ins and outs of boxing are knowing how TO box. When you join a boxing cub, they do not say, "Ok, here are the Queensbury Rules of boxing".

This "back-garden boxing" you refer to, if you said that to my face you would have to get your ass in the ring (yes, a real ring) and get your ass whooped and find out for yourself how tough Americans are. You are extemely disrespectful. My uncle is a pro ref, trainer, and former fighter. We know boxing. Knowledge of boxing rules I have, and my credibility is not lessened because I don't know hat they were officially referred to as but no onemakes mention of anymore. Do you ever see any threads on here where people mention the "Queensbury Rules"?

So it's made up!... P4P the best fighters in the World aren't Americans... They're Mexicans and Thai's And Pueto Rican's, and many other Countries...

It's a sport and a business. In any case you have not backed up your assertion that Americans are not tough. p4p the best fighters in the world are Americans and historically have been AMERICANS. Wake up. You are in DENIAL.

Robinson, Roy, Dempsey, Tunney, Johnson, Jones, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Hopkins, Hagler,Hearns, Leonard, Whitaker, Marciano...the list goes on an on...but history is not even my point, my point is that currently we have better fighters than YOUR country so you can go ahead and silence yourself on theissue of who has tough fighters.

[Tha Greatest]

I said no one refers to them anymore. And that's true, 100%. When boxing comes on HBO/Showtime/ESPN, etc. they do not say "Here are the Queensbury Rules of Boxing." They say something like "the rules of the fight are agrred upon by the United Assoc. of Boxing Commissions."



Thanks for parroting what I already said. Pay attention.



Few people know or care about those rules, brother, in that regard that they are called the "Queensbury Rules". Of course we know the rules, but no one calls them that. It's not really shocking at all. Knowing the ins and out of boxing has nothing to do with knowing that the rules used to be called the "Queensbury Rules". he ins and outs of boxing are knowing how TO box. When you join a boxing cub, they do not say, "Ok, here are the Queensbury Rules of boxing".

This "back-garden boxing" you refer to, if you said that to my face you would have to get your ass in the ring (yes, a real ring) and get your ass whooped and find out for yourself how tough Americans are. You are extemely disrespectful. My uncle is a pro ref, trainer, and former fighter. We know boxing. Knowledge of boxing rules I have, and my credibility is not lessened because I don't know hat they were officially referred to as but no onemakes mention of anymore. Do you ever see any threads on here where people mention the "Queensbury Rules"?



It's a sport and a business. In any case you have not backed up your assertion that Americans are not tough. p4p the best fighters in the world are Americans and historically have been AMERICANS. Wake up. You are in DENIAL.

Robinson, Roy, Dempsey, Tunney, Johnson, Jones, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Hopkins, Hagler,Hearns, Leonard, Whitaker, Marciano...the list goes on an on...but history is not even my point, my point is that currently we have better fighters than YOUR country so you can go ahead and silence yourself on theissue of who has tough fighters.

I second what u say

so MartinWBC, both of us say this!

The Queensbary rule hahahha, no wonder England dont got good fighters, they prolly only teach them the rules... hahah

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

I said no one refers to them anymore. And that's true, 100%. When boxing comes on HBO/Showtime/ESPN, etc. they do not say "Here are the Queensbury Rules of Boxing." They say something like "the rules of the fight are agrred upon by the United Assoc. of Boxing Commissions."

Maybe in America?... But nowhere else...

Few people know or care about those rules, brother, in that regard that they are called the "Queensbury Rules". Of course we know the rules, but no one calls them that. It's not really shocking at all. Knowing the ins and out of boxing has nothing to do with knowing that the rules used to be called the "Queensbury Rules". he ins and outs of boxing are knowing how TO box. When you join a boxing cub, they do not say, "Ok, here are the Queensbury Rules of boxing".

This "back-garden boxing" you refer to, if you said that to my face you would have to get your ass in the ring (yes, a real ring) and get your ass whooped and find out for yourself how tough Americans are. You are extemely disrespectful. My uncle is a pro ref, trainer, and former fighter. We know boxing. Knowledge of boxing rules I have, and my credibility is not lessened because I don't know hat they were officially referred to as but no onemakes mention of anymore. Do you ever see any threads on here where people mention the "Queensbury Rules"?

If you asked ANY professional or amateur fighter, they would KNOW what the Marquis of Queensberry rules is all about... "It's their business".

You would get me in the ring and "whoop my arse???" I fight at lightweight and would imagine you're a middleweight? YOUR NAME ISN'T BERNARD IS IT?... LOL!...

Re-read what I wrote about Boxing being a business and take it in.

Incedently, you do know that the population of America is about 6X the size of the UK? Narrow it down and you'll see the differences.

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

If you asked ANY professional or amateur fighter, they would KNOW what the Marquis of Queensberry rules is all about... "It's their business".

You would get me in the ring and "whoop my arse???" I fight at lightweight and would imagine you're a middleweight? YOUR NAME ISN'T BERNARD IS IT?... LOL!...

Re-read what I wrote about Boxing being a business and take it in.

Incedently, you do know that the population of America is about 6X the size of the UK? Narrow it down and you'll see the differences.

No, it is not their business to know what a few people call the rules, it is only their business to follow the rules of boxing which they are given before a fight. There are plenty of pro boxers who do not use the term "Queensbury Boxing Rules". When the ref gives the instructions, "Queensbury Rules" are NOT referred to.

Learning how to fight is more important than knowing a term that hardly anyone uses anymore, at least around here. We know the rules, otherwise how could we be OWNING you in boxing? I fight at 140 lbs. Good enough to show you respect.

If Britain was so much more tough than American, then where is the proof? There is none. Eastman is Britain's best middleweight and he looked like a clown vs a 40 yr old snaggle tooth wonder named Bernard Hopkins. Eastman I guess, is a lightweight.


You are the one who asserted there are no tough people in America, which is an insane assertion. You have to prove YOUR point, and you cannot, and hence we are arguing over the semantics of boxing rules, and not what takes place in the ring.

Even if you do the math and take population into consideration, I would wager that Americans are still equal or better in the rankings. As it stands now, we are MUCH better. If we are so weak, then how could we even be TIED?

In any case, YOU made that assertion, and now YOU need to back it up, or get on outta here wth your weak semantics arguments. IN THE RING, we OWN you. If you cannot prove otherwise in your next post (because that is the point here) then you should retract your original statement and admit you cannot prove it.

[Rockin']

The most important development in the modernization of boxing came with the drafting of the Queensbeery Rules in 1865, their publication in 1867, and their wide adoption in 1892. Before 1892 most importanat matches were fought under the London Prize Ring Rules, which were adopted in 1838 from Broughtons rules of 1743 and revised in 1853 and 1866. The 29 London Prize Ring Rules generally spelled out Broughtons Rules with greater length and in greater detail; they also specified fouls more explicitly. The "square of a yard" in Broughtons rule 1 were replaced by the old "scratch" line: after the 30 seconds between rounds elapsed and the umpire called time, each man had to walk to the scratch line unaided, this prevented seconds from carrying boxers to the scratch who were unfit to continue. Also, spikes were limited on the boots, and fouls, such as butting, gouging, biting, scratching, kicking and the use of stones in the hands were clarified. The Queensberry Rules, which were probably drawn up by a classmate of Broughtons at Cambridge, John Graham Chambers, removed the wrestling aspect, introduced gloves, extended the time between rounds to 1 minute, banned spiked shoes and limited rounds to three minutes...............Rockin'

[joeboxer]

I think all the tough guys get sent to prison now. Last night some dude wanted to start a fight with me coming back on this train. He pushed me first and I got ****ing tackled by the train security people and they threw me off the train and threatend to call the cops. I chilled out, because i didn't want to go to jail, but back in the day the used to let people get their fight on, not anymore though.

[Slipx]

video games,

cintron plays video games >alot<

[boxerman]

all the best young fighters are online playing fight night