Pacquiao-Marquez 3: Roach Would Want it at 145

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sort of discredits Floyds win over Marquez even more though, since it was held at 147, an even higher weight.

Not at all. It let real boxing fans know that FMJ beats him at any weight.

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I agree with Brother Nazeem Richardson when he stated that the biggest trick Team Pac has pulled is making us believe he is small. I was at the fight and when Pac walked by, he easily looked to be around 155lbs. Does anybody know Pacs weight on fight night? Another poster made the comment about Cotto always refusing to give his unofficial weight. The reason for that is because Cotto is one of the smaller WW's who competes at the elite level. Cotto being a small WW can't be argued. His refusal to weigh in on fight night is more about keeping a psychological advantage away from his opponents. What I don't understand is how so many contradicting statements made by Roach always go under the radar. Just today in the Steve Kim article he says that Manny is now a full 147 pounder. He also goes on to say that he believes that Cotto had regressed since the Margarito fight. I like Pac, but his career is just as steered and coddled as PBF. The difference being that Manny is more entertaining. He puts on a good show. The boxing media love him and will tout him because the industry needs him. They need a new DLH and it's hard not to be touched by Manny and his boyish charisma. Pac fans will argue that people keep coming up with the same excuses, But from what I see, those same excuses (I'd rather call them advantages) come from Roaches mouth as well. Who here can deny hearing Roach say any of the following: "DLH can't pull the trigger anymore" , "Hatton was never that good" , "Cotto is not the same fighter he used to be, right now is a good time to fight Cotto"? I don't get it. Like I said, I like Manny, but I prefer a fighter like Cotto who fought all the top fighters in his division-no concessions win or lose. People say he looked bad in this fight or that fight, but the bottom line is, it's hard to shine when you're fighting the elite in a proper division.

And for the record, no I'm not Puerto Rican or a Mexican or a Pac hater. I'm just a fan who is tired of all these divisions and catchweight title fights ruining the sport.

A small WW doesn't come in weighing 160 fight night.

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145-pounds is Manny Pacquiao's lucky number. It was the contracted catch-weight for last Saturday's bout with Miguel Cotto, where Pacquiao captured the WBO welterweight title with a twelve round stoppage. Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach would also like 145-pounds as the contracted weight for a super-fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. If a deal for Pacquiao-Mayweather falls apart, a likely option is a trilogy bout with Juan Manuel Marquez. One would expect for that fight to take place at junior welterweight, but Roach would want that fight to be a welterweight title defense at, you guessed it, 145-pounds. [details]

wtf is up with roach's obsession with 145? I gain and lose 3 pounds almost every day. it really doesn't make that much of a difference. and besides, how would 145 give more of an advantage than 147 against JMM? roach is going mad.

[WhoreUs!]

145 should be officially named Mannyweight.

[dans]

Mayweather fought JMM @ 144 lbs.

Pacquiao is fighting him @ 145 lbs.


Now, someone please tell me who is picking on who. Anyone?

That's not the point. Mayweather already received criticism for the JMM fight. The point is that Marquez has already shown that he's not as effective at that weight. It would only discredit the win if the fight was at 145. Excuse me, Mannyweight.

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145 should be officially named Mannyweight.

LOL... good one.

Seriously though, they should fight at 140.
It'd still be a title defense for Pac, and easier for JMM,
who would still get the piss beaten out of him.
lol.

[lcheezy]

ive already counted four excuses to duck mayweather.

[martin7764]

because Pac and Roach are biaches that are trying to get any advantage they can against Marquez since they already ducked Marquez at 135 , this fight should happen at 140 not a pound over so that neither fighter has the advantage even though Marquez should not be fighting above 135 . But the Pac huggers are as bad as Mayweather huggers thier lover could never do no wrong.

[periks19]

And you ignorance king.

How many catchweight fights Manny took??ONE!!!

Pac lowered DLH to 147,but there are two sides on the contract.

The other side is DLH cherry picked Manny at 147 from 135(it was ridiculous).

He underestimated Manny skills and power.Why Oscar agreed if it wasn't fair??

The only Cherry picker in that story was Oscar.

I love how guys like you rewrite history.

I think the only ignorant person here is you that likes to lie to your own self. dlh made him go from 135 to 147 thats true pacquiao was coming from 135 but weighted 142 a comfortable weight for him not fully blown to 147. He only gained 7 pounds thats almost at jr welterweight a weight he was already planning on moving up. There is a difference when you gain than when you losse weight when you loose weight you get weaker dlh lost 7 pounds. Now what danger was there facing an already old past his prime dlh manny took that fight because if he lost he cared about the payday doesn't the 1 million per pound clearly states they were interested for the money?? figthers would probably cut a finger to fight dlh because of the money.

Now pac made cotto loose 2 pounds if its not a big deal why than he worried about it?? He picked a fighter that was beat by marg and clottey why not mosley himself?? mosley even agreed to go to 143 i think to fight him he didn't wanted you know why?? because roach knows there is no way they can beat mosley they choose somebody that was already ruined and lets just add that also they made him go down on weight and call it a ww fight.

Now when did pac and roach ever wanted to face JMM at 130 or 135 again they were such big ******* that they didn't like to mention his name. JMM went to the philipines to call out pac, he made it very clearly that they were scared of him schaffer from gbp offered 6 million to do a rematch immediately afterthe fight and the ******* denied it. Is not like diaz was better busineswise thats a big sign of being a *****. Now all of a sudden they want JMM at 145 after seeing him not carry the weight good??? ask yourself that ****ing question and stop lying to yourself.

[DoubleM]

Manny is picking on the lightweight champ now.

Pick on fighters your own size Manny.