For those who think Chad Dawson beat Glen Johnson in the first fight........

[Spray_resistant]

Not only did Johnson dominate the rounds that he won in my view. I only found five rounds to give to Chad when I watched it. And like I said, the 10th round could've been a 10-8 to me easily. This fight was a highway robbery and it cost Johnson a lot of money he may never get back, because we should've gotten either a Dawson-Johnson rematch right away, or a Dawson-Tarver rubber match. And a lot of the punches that that report has Dawson landing probably didn't even get through either because I saw a **** load of them landing on Glen's gloves. Come on, people need to be real. It's not about me disliking Chad Dawson. It's about getting people who don't see the reality of this fight to get the proper perspective.

It was a close fight and not for a title Glen was defending so Chad doesn't really owe it to Glen to give him a rematch.....Glen is lucky there are not many notable fighters @LHW willing to fight Chad because if there were this rematch would not be taking place.....close fights happen all of the time and just because some dispute the decision doesn't make it a robbery. Robbery= won 8 rounds+ without debate and don't get the nod from the judges.....this is not what happened in that fight.

[Clint650]

compubox is useless when a fight is close. you have to score fights on rounds.

i thought Glen fought a great fight, but I had Chad winning.

[Iceta]

Number one, there's absolutely no way it was highway robbery. That's not even debatable.

I don't really have a problem with you scoring the fight for Johnson. It was close. That's not the issue. You said that if one guy is dominating the rounds he's winning, it influences the way you score the fight. That is what doesn't make sense.

If you thought Johnson won 7 rounds, that's fine. But if you gave him some of those rounds just because he dominated a few others, there's a problem with that.

I just think Johnson won the fight and the rematch should've happened right away. Nothing else needs to be said really. I don't have a problem with Hopkins losing his #1 position at 175. But if someone like that is gonna take it over, then he'll fall off like Jermaine Taylor did. Dawson has never impressed me. I wish Hopkins would fight him, because it would be a winnable fight for him and it would put to rest this criticism he gets for fighting smaller guys. Hopkins has disappointed me by going after Roy Jones. Chad Dawson is a better fighter at this point, but Hopkins would still beat him and it would do a lot for his legacy.

[Clint650]

Jesus Christ guys, pay attention to what I typed. I said Compubox is one of the reasons why Johnson got robbed. Punch quality is another reason. Dawson tried to turn it into olympic boxing, and Johnson put up a performance that best describes prize fighting. I can't for the life of me figure out why people think Dawson won that fight.

because he outboxed Glen just enough to win. far from a robbery.

when a fighter loses more than six rounds without scoring a knockdown and without his opponent being deducted any points, it's really tough to reward him the victory. unless you're just biased against the other fighter.

[Iceta]

I appreciate the replies and we can go on and on about this. But Dawson failed in all three categories where winning the fight is concerned just like I mentioned in my opening post. He got out punched, got hurt, backed up, and he didn't win any of the championship rounds. I wish people appreciated fighters who dictate the pace of fights. The only reason that fight was exciting was because of Glen Johnson. Dawson tried to turn it into a borefest by running, and that's when the crowd booed him. When he had no place to run to, Glen was getting in his ass. After seeing that fight, I don't see how Dawson wins this rematch if Johnson makes a few adjustments and increases his aggressiveness.

[Spray_resistant]

I appreciate the replies and we can go on and on about this. But Dawson failed in all three categories where winning the fight is concerned just like I mentioned in my opening post. He got out punched, got hurt, backed up, and he didn't win any of the championship rounds. I wish people appreciated fighters who dictate the pace of fights. The only reason that fight was exciting was because of Glen Johnson. Dawson tried to turn it into a borefest by running, and that's when the crowd booed him. When he had no place to run to, Glen was getting in his ass. After seeing that fight, I don't see how Dawson wins this rematch if Johnson makes a few adjustments and increases his aggressiveness.

Backed up? so he can't use movement now? Since when is winning championship rounds a prerequisite for winning a fight? does a fighter lose if he won rounds 1-9 and get out pointed in 10-12?
Chad used movement and that can make for dull fights but he is a boxer, if Glen had his skill and talent Chad has, he would do the same its smart boxing.
I doubt a diminished Johnson will win this no matter what he does, did you see his fight against Dan Judah?

[Iceta]

Backed up? so he can't use movement now? Since when is winning championship rounds a prerequisite for winning a fight? does a fighter lose if he won rounds 1-9 and get out pointed in 10-12?
Chad used movement and that can make for dull fights but he is a boxer, if Glen had his skill and talent Chad has, he would do the same its smart boxing.
I doubt a diminished Johnson will win this no matter what he does, did you see his fight against Dan Judah?

Yes I did, and he showed better stamina than Chad Dawson did against Tarver against an opponent that he had to constantly chase. He probably didn't get up for that fight. Like I said, he has been serious about his weight and condition. Has Chad Dawson been? And if what you say is true about Johnson being past it, then Dawson may not get that much credit by some people if he wins even though it is a necessity to rematch Johnson like Mayweather did when he had a controversial fight with Castillo. The difference is, Mayweather didn't wait for him to get old like Chad has done with Glen Johnson. And so what if Johnson didn't have the WBC title? It isn't like Dawson was a long reigning champion. I don't think Castillo was either because he had just fought Stevie Johnston twice, but I don't remember exactly. I'd have to go to box rec.

[Clint650]

I appreciate the replies and we can go on and on about this. But Dawson failed in all three categories where winning the fight is concerned just like I mentioned in my opening post. He got out punched, got hurt, backed up, and he didn't win any of the championship rounds. I wish people appreciated fighters who dictate the pace of fights. The only reason that fight was exciting was because of Glen Johnson. Dawson tried to turn it into a borefest by running, and that's when the crowd booed him. When he had no place to run to, Glen was getting in his ass. After seeing that fight, I don't see how Dawson wins this rematch if Johnson makes a few adjustments and increases his aggressiveness.

i hope you're right. i like Glen's story and how he came up. he deserves more recognition. it's just tough because he's that much older and Chad is that much more experienced now.
I'd like to see another close fight.

[Sweet Pea 50]

As others have stated, I have no issue's with people giving the nod to Johnson in that bout. But it was a close fight, and Dawson got his hand raised. Robbery? Not really. I think Dawson leaves no doubt this time.

[Iceta]

I don't have anything against pure boxers. I appreciate Floyd Mayweather's skills and to me, if fighters like Pernell Whitaker tried to fight aggressively (He actually did sometimes) he would get creamed because he knows he doesn't have the power and strength to compete like that. So he has to use movement and slickness combined with intelligence. Dawson actually has some power, and still plays it safe. I can't respect a guy like that.