Answer me this about Floyd...Larry X and Horus especially

[RodBarker]

I thought a challenger was supposed to beat the best comp available? Wasn't Cotto doing that till the Margarito fight? Since the Margarito fight? Hasn't Mosley done that since the Cotto fight? These guys have repeatedly proven themselves by not just taking on, but by beating the best at 147. It baffles me how you can make an exception for Floyd who has proven he is not willing to step up to the best unless they bring a certain amount of money with them.

Who said he is not willing he is their now lets see what transpires , he has no choice but to fight the fights and he will ,,, you guys talk like he has done all that he is going too , he will beat the winner of Pac Cotto and then what does that say for his WW form ?

[Bushbaby]

I predicted that floyd would fight Marquez,when not to many people thought he would,look it up if ya don't believe me,tried to,don't know how!!But I know that floyd will not fight Mosley,or Cotto!!He'll probably try to fight Pacman even if Cotto beats him,or Peterson or Hatton!!

[JAB5239]

[QUOTE=Horus;6527521][FONT="Tahoma"][SIZE="3"]Jab, Honeslty I can go 2 ways with this post.

1. Competely, Just pulled Rank and Start Comparing Credentials And then ask why both Cotto and "The Juice Man" turn down fights with Mayweather earlier in their career, when Mayweather was looking to fight them.

2.I can tell you, Exception are made all the time in boxing. and Give you the history. Then Explain to you how Fighters become bigger than the rest when They become better than the rest.
than exceptions are made.
Ask Dempsey,SRR,Ali,SRL,Chavez, Tyson,Oscar, Mayweather

You choose which argument, you want to hear.

In other words, my friend, you will keep making excuses for the hypocrisy that I have pointed out, and condoning floyd not making the toughest fights. We've been trough this hundreds of times already Horus. Fans of the SPORT want to see the best fighting the best. Fans of the SPORT recognize when fans of a fighter blindly make excuses for the man. It's old my friend. You aren't changing my views anymore than I am yours. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy in what you said in your first post in comparison to similarities between Floyd and Cotto's "talk to my team" approach.

[Horus]

[QUOTE=JAB5239;6527731]

[FONT="Tahoma"][SIZE="3"]Jab, Honeslty I can go 2 ways with this post.

1. Competely, Just pulled Rank and Start Comparing Credentials And then ask why both Cotto and "The Juice Man" turn down fights with Mayweather earlier in their career, when Mayweather was looking to fight them.

2.I can tell you, Exception are made all the time in boxing. and Give you the history. Then Explain to you how Fighters become bigger than the rest when They become better than the rest.
than exceptions are made.
Ask Dempsey,SRR,Ali,SRL,Chavez, Tyson,Oscar, Mayweather

You choose which argument, you want to hear.

In other words, my friend, you will keep making excuses for the hypocrisy that I have pointed out, and condoning floyd not making the toughest fights. We've been trough this hundreds of times already Horus. Fans of the SPORT want to see the best fighting the best. Fans of the SPORT recognize when fans of a fighter blindly make excuses for the man. It's old my friend. You aren't changing my views anymore than I am yours. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy in what you said in your first post in comparison to similarities between Floyd and Cotto's "talk to my team" approach.

No hypocrisy from me.
just from you.

You blame floyd for not fighting cotto?
But you dont blame cotto for not fighting floyd?

At least Floyd made cotto a offer, cant say the same for cotto.

Let's keep 100 jab.


you cant have both ways

[JAB5239]

Who said he is not willing he is their now lets see what transpires , he has no choice but to fight the fights and he will ,,, you guys talk like he has done all that he is going too , he will beat the winner of Pac Cotto and then what does that say for his WW form ?

Fans like me go by a pattern set by a fighter. Floyds pattern has been to not make the toughest fights in his division because he feels he won't get enough money. My view is, how much more money do you really need? Either you want to be the best or you want to be the richest. You can't be both. The best fight everybody and make their mark, they don't just fight the last man standing.

[JAB5239]

[QUOTE=Horus;6527779]

No hypocrisy from me.
just from you.

You blame floyd for not fighting cotto?
But you dont blame cotto for not fighting floyd?

At least Floyd made cotto a offer, cant say the same for cotto.

Let's keep 100 jab.


you cant have both ways

Cotto said he wasn't ready, but Floyd was willing to fight him then. when he was ready Floyd said he didn't bring enough to the table. Does it really get any more hypocritical than that my man? 2nd time around Cotto was a better fighter with way more exposure yet Floyd said no. Hmmmmm......

[Guest]

I am ready to let bygones be bygones.

I will judge Floyd on his next choice of opponent(s).

He said he had a hit list.

I wouldn't mind knowing who's on it.

He has a definite chance to redeem himself at welterweight.

He's already cashed in big twice with the biggest names, now it's legacy time baby.

I hope for the best.

[Horus]

[QUOTE=JAB5239;6527850]

Cotto said he wasn't ready, but Floyd was willing to fight him then. when he was ready Floyd said he didn't bring enough to the table. Does it really get any more hypocritical than that my man? 2nd time around Cotto was a better fighter with way more exposure yet Floyd said no. Hmmmmm......

Here are the facts.

Cotto said No to Floyd. <___BOTTOMLINE__

Arum never made a offer to Floyd to fight Cotto <___BOTTOMLINE___

[JAB5239]

[QUOTE=Horus;6527912]

Here are the facts.

Cotto said No to Floyd. <___BOTTOMLINE__

Arum never made a offer to Floyd to fight Cotto <___BOTTOMLINE___

Here are the FACTS.

Floyd wanted Cotto before his star had risen and he was at his best

Floyd didn't want Cotto when he had built a fanbase and was in top form

Floyd passed on an offer to fight a much more dangerous fight with Margarito for little known and of no threat Baldomir.

Floyd has been at 147 since 2005 and has yet to fight the guy considered the most dangerous in the division.

Floyd will not prove himself against other top contenders because he doesn't think its worth is time.

Floyd wants to wait until the last man standing to make a mega fight instead of taking a chance

You will go to extreme lengths to protect Floyd and continue to make any excuse available to dismiss Floyd from actually taking a risk.

Not only facts, but the BOTTOM LINE.

[Chuckguy]

[QUOTE=JAB5239;6528056]

Here are the FACTS.

Floyd wanted Cotto before his star had risen and he was at his best

Floyd didn't want Cotto when he had built a fanbase and was in top form

Floyd passed on an offer to fight a much more dangerous fight with Margarito for little known and of no threat Baldomir.

Floyd has been at 147 since 2005 and has yet to fight the guy considered the most dangerous in the division.

Floyd will not prove himself against other top contenders because he doesn't think its worth is time.

Floyd wants to wait until the last man standing to make a mega fight instead of taking a chance

You will go to extreme lengths to protect Floyd and continue to make any excuse available to dismiss Floyd from actually taking a risk.

Not only facts, but the BOTTOM LINE.

Good ****
but you have to realize its Horus man he will go down defending Floyd regardless of how dumb he looks
you have to love him for trying though