Is Bernard Hopkins overrated?

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  • Sir Tom Jones
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    #211
    bhop bhop bop.

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    • street bully
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      #212
      Originally posted by Sir Tom Jones
      bhop bhop bop.
      That's what I am talking about. Hopkins and Calzaghe ftw.

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        #213
        Originally posted by djtmal
        how would we know...he never allows hbo an unofficial weigh-in
        He always allows it.

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        • IMDAZED
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          #214
          Originally posted by djtmal
          the argument stops right here...we'd been calling for hopkins to move up since he lost to jones in 93 ...160 was a wasteland for years until king put together the 160 tournment that started when? ...2000 maybe?...hopkins should have fought joppy even before the 160 tournament...instead he sat on the sidelines and watched tito flatten him, then he called joppy out...

          nard had every intention to stay at 160 and beat up on smaller fighters until a good big man came along by the name of taylor....
          I think what really happened is that he watched Tito flatten him, then he destroyed Tito.

          Furthermore, I think you know why there was never any unification prior to 160 so why act like you don't just for the sake of dissing Hopkins?

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          • BEEHOP
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            #215
            Originally posted by Carnivore
            No, in his previous fight, Pavlik defended his WBO/WBC titles at 160 against a Welshman called Gary Lockett.



            Pavlik was sick. Jack Loew said Kelly would never fight again when he wasn't 100%.
            The fight before Lockett he was super middle weight.

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              #216
              Originally posted by BEEHOP
              The fight before Lockett he was super middle weight.
              No, it was a catchweight for Taylor, who had trouble making 160.

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                #217
                Originally posted by Carnivore
                No, it was a catchweight for Taylor, who had trouble making 160.
                Which was above 160.

                Anything above 160, but below 168 = Super Middleweight.

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                  #218
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  I think what really happened is that he watched Tito flatten him, then he destroyed Tito.

                  Furthermore, I think you know why there was never any unification prior to 160 so why act like you don't just for the sake of dissing Hopkins?


                  hopkins broke ass knew tito was too small, but he brought the big bucks...

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #219
                    Originally posted by djtmal
                    hopkins broke ass knew tito was too small, but he brought the big bucks...
                    I'm confused...you said he watched Tito flatten Joppy then called Joppy out. Of course that's a lie but I don't want to get caught up in more lies from you.

                    He was going to fight the winner...it was a tourney.

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                    • onedream722
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                      #220
                      he might be rated pretty high p4p for being inactive but in no way is his career overrated...he has a remarkable story ...coming from the penitentiary to become middleweight champion with all those defenses...he fought elite competition and prevailed the majority of the time

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