Is Bernard Hopkins overrated?

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  • BEEHOP
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    #201
    Originally posted by Carnivore
    He used lots of headbutts, holding and faking low blows to survive against Joe.

    Pavlik was sick at the time, and coming up from two weight classes below.
    Pavlik had just fought at Super middle weight, and they fought it at 170 so he was really only coming up half a weight class. And Bernard was better, that's why he won, make all the excuses you want, but Bernard was CLEARLY better.

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    • Iceta
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      #202
      Hopkins should be dropped from the Lightheavyweight rankings period. And I'm saying this as one of his fans. And his fight with Roy is gonna be at Cruiser isn't it?

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      • BEEHOP
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        #203
        Originally posted by Carnivore
        You're not, but MOST Hopkins fans are racist, Bhopreign and BEEHOP being the two most obvious examples.

        That includes the poster who made the Kessler thread.
        I am a racist? You are the racist, you posted links to racist sports websites, and there's proof of that.

        How am I racist? YOU are clearly the racist one. And you make it apparent with everyone of your posts including this thread.

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        • street bully
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          #204
          People are mad Hopkins took their favorite fighters sould, that is all.

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          • djtmal
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            #205
            Originally posted by BEEHOP
            Pavlik had just fought at Super middle weight, and they fought it at 170 so he was really only coming up half a weight class. And Bernard was better, that's why he won, make all the excuses you want, but Bernard was CLEARLY better.
            lol...what you fail to mention is, nard prolly ballooned back up to 185 after the weigh in...

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            • BEEHOP
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              #206
              Originally posted by street bully
              People are mad Hopkins took their favorite fighters sould, that is all.
              Exactly, Hopkins is so good he makes people not want to be fans after he beats them.

              I wonder how many Pavlik fans abandoned ship after he lost to Bernard.

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              • BEEHOP
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                #207
                Originally posted by djtmal
                lol...what you fail to mention is, nard prolly ballooned back up to 185 after the weigh in...
                Bernard has never been that big.

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                • djtmal
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                  #208
                  Originally posted by Iceta
                  Hopkins should be dropped from the Lightheavyweight rankings period. And I'm saying this as one of his fans. And his fight with Roy is gonna be at Cruiser isn't it?
                  he's making roy move down to 168 while he stays at 175

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                  • The Hammer
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by BEEHOP
                    Pavlik had just fought at Super middle weight, and they fought it at 170 so he was really only coming up half a weight class.
                    No, in his previous fight, Pavlik defended his WBO/WBC titles at 160 against a Welshman called Gary Lockett.

                    Originally posted by BEEHOP
                    And Bernard was better, that's why he won, make all the excuses you want, but Bernard was CLEARLY better.
                    Pavlik was sick. Jack Loew said Kelly would never fight again when he wasn't 100%.

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                    • djtmal
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                      #210
                      Originally posted by BEEHOP
                      Bernard has never been that big.
                      how would we know...he never allows hbo an unofficial weigh-in

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