Is Bernard Hopkins overrated?

[IMDAZED]

that one trinket he cherised probably had no value....

so say he vacated the middleweight strap and moved up to 168 and beat say carl "the truth" williams or michael nunn...two guys i can think of off the top of my head who were still active, his size and equally talented...i would have gave him a lot of respect...

they way i saw it, he was nobody for years until tito, a big name little guy, moved up and beat some half assed middleweights...

btw...the polls still score in the thread starter's favor...

I had no idea Carl "The Truth" Williams fought at 168. Tell me, what title did he hold?

And why would beating Michael Nunn at 168 matter? He lost his super middleweight title before Hopkins even won ANY title! And then lost the next time he was handed a title shot...and then left 168!

You're grasping at straws, djhater. Seriously.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Hopkins needs to break the trend of making guys move up out of their natural weight division. That will finally happen when he fights Roy Jones at least even though Roy is shot to ****. I think Hopkins beats Adamek, Cloud, and Dawson as it stands right now, but he's got to do it in order to get credit for it.

I thought Hopkins "had no options".

[Iceta]

I thought Hopkins "had no options".

He doesn't have. I'm just saying he needs to fight one of those guys when the opportunity presents itself. Right now, Dawson and Johnson are fighting and if Hopkins based when he is fighting next around that fight, his layoff would be longer. Adamek is moving up to Cruiserweight. And sure I'd like Hopkins to fight Cloud. He is someone who is an option like you put it.

[mitch12]

well if hopkins is a atg that mean calzaghe is to

[Mikhnienko]

His from the same era as McCellan, Benn, Toney, Collins, Nunn, Watson, Jackson, Eubank, Liles etc, how did he manage to miss all those guys?

Thank You, i mentioned this earlier, can any Bernard fan give a legit reason as to why he never fought any of these guys. Or even more important, how you consider him the best of his era when the above mentioned along with Jones and McCallum were around at about the same time?

[IMDAZED]

Thank You, i mentioned this earlier, can any Bernard fan give a legit reason as to why he never fought any of these guys. Or even more important, how you consider him the best of his era when the above mentioned along with Jones and McCallum were around at about the same time?

There are countless reasons but you lack perspective. Seriously. Step back and think of who Bernard Hopkins was in 1996. Then think of who those guys were in 1996.

[Mikhnienko]

There are countless reasons but you lack perspective. Seriously. Step back and think of who Bernard Hopkins was in 1996. Then think of who those guys were in 1996.

that is why i said "more importantly" in regards to how people rate him in this era, that is why in my first post (which was completely ignored) i said "had he come along 88-95"

i know he wasn't really on the scene early 90's, i really am asking how people rate him so high given the depth around 160 just a few years before and if Bernards fans really think he would have been at the top of the pile competeing with the guys listed.

The obvious answer in my opinion is no, in my earlier post i said he'd have been lucky to even hold a title. Yet some claim he's an All-time great Middleweight (ludicrous), reality is that had he come along a few years earlier he'd be a second thought when remembering his own era, forget about all-time.

[djtmal]

I had no idea Carl "The Truth" Williams fought at 168. Tell me, what title did he hold?

And why would beating Michael Nunn at 168 matter? He lost his super middleweight title before Hopkins even won ANY title! And then lost the next time he was handed a title shot...and then left 168!

You're grasping at straws, djhater. Seriously.

no you got me on carl "the truth" lol...i meant prince charles williams...nunn would have been a credible name title or not...nunn certainly would have been a more credible opponent than bo james...

[djtmal]

Thank You, i mentioned this earlier, can any Bernard fan give a legit reason as to why he never fought any of these guys. Or even more important, how you consider him the best of his era when the above mentioned along with Jones and McCallum were around at about the same time?

they can't give a legit reason...they can only give lame excuses when they were all lumped together at the same time...

[djtmal]

There are countless reasons but you lack perspective. Seriously. Step back and think of who Bernard Hopkins was in 1996. Then think of who those guys were in 1996.

please man give us 1 legit reason...just say that you can't and leave it alone