Who was the best white fighter?

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  • Ivansmamma
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    #51
    Originally posted by Benny Leonard
    I'm just wondering what the purity of the blood has to be to be considered "White"

    For example: If you are from Russia, have white skin, have Russian ancestry, but one of your ancestors were ****d by a Mongolian soldier and she had a baby, and that baby grew up and had a baby and son on...and the descendant became a Boxing Champion...how white is he?

    What if he is from Russia and is ***ish?

    So confused on this. I'll have to consult my advisor who will probably be on this thread at some point.
    I would consider both white. Thats why i critized thoose earlier in the thread who stated that Duran wasen't white. Of course it could get a bit arbitrary if you try to classify someone with no clear physiological dominant traits using your eyes alone but at that point i'm sure science could clear it up using DNA if anyone sees the need of it.
    My point is that the majority of people could be easily classified into either white, black or yellow just using or eyes and it needn't be more complicated in most cases.

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    • Benncollinsaad
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      #52
      Originally posted by Ivansmamma
      I would consider both white. Thats why i critized thoose earlier in the thread who stated that Duran wasen't white. Of course it could get a bit arbitrary if you try to classify someone with no clear physiological dominant traits using your eyes alone but at that point i'm sure science could clear it up using DNA if anyone sees the need of it.
      My point is that the majority of people could be easily classified into either white, black or yellow just using or eyes and it needn't be more complicated in most cases.
      I know for a fact that many Latinos take offense when called white. Wether or not they are actually white. I guess its because being white is considered "uncool" and they like to play the rebel role. I'm fine with that. Don't get me wrong. One should be allowed to feel like one wants.

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      • Ivansmamma
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        #53
        Originally posted by Benncollinsaad
        I know for a fact that many Latinos take offense when called white. Wether or not they are actually white. I guess its because being white is considered "uncool" and they like to play the rebel role. I'm fine with that. Don't get me wrong. One should be allowed to feel like one wants.
        I think there is a lot of truth to what you are saying.

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        • Benncollinsaad
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          #54
          Hey, even I had an identity crisis once where I didn't want to be white!Lol. Luckily it passed. I can imagine how it is for someone whose skin isn't so fair.

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          • The Hammer
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            #55
            Muhammed Ali was 1/4 Irish, and Mike Tyson was too. George Foreman said about half of his ancestors were white. Joe Louis was part white.

            The best white boxer may have been Jim Jeffries, he was old and had previously been retired when he fought Jack Johnson. Prime Jeffries would have beaten prime Johnson.

            Greb, Tunney, Marciano (very underrated) and Pep were among the best.

            And I think Vitali would hold his own with any heavyweight in history.

            Historically the best boxers have been men of mixed African-American and white (Ali, Tyson, Louis, etc). They seem to be on average more athletic than either whites or Africans.

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            • Bretty Poy32
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              #56
              muhammad ali is the greatest white fighter

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                #57
                Originally posted by Dondi33O
                Nothing Racial......just curious as to who others might feel were the top white fighters.
                I have heard Rocky Marciano and because I love boxing I have researched his old fights, seen some of his clips, and semi-screened his opposition. After all that, I found him to be just Ok(but that's another topic)Unbeaten can be over-hyped.
                Calzaghe was pretty good but he needed America sooner in his career to see where he was really at.
                Personally, I think the best, most entertaining and exciting in my era had to be "The Real Rocky Balboa, Arturo Gatti. (RIP)
                Honorable mentions to Vinny Pazienza, Greg Haugen, Mickey Ward,Bom Boom Mancini, Dempsey.
                Rocky!!!!!!!!!.................................... ................Balboa- ADRIAN!!!!!!!

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                • Chunk..
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                  #58
                  Bob Fitzsimmons. Former Middleweight, Light Heavyweight and Heavyweight champion of the world. The first 3 weight world champion.

                  Jimmy Wilde. The greatest Flyweight ever!

                  And they're Brits. Go figure?

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                  • aristotlemoses
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                    #59
                    Cerdan, not the greatest but thought I'd throw him in there
                    Nonpareil jack dempsey

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                    • Shadows
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                      #60
                      Most would likely say Pep.

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