My dwindling hope for an American Heavyweight Champ.

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  • ragingvic
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    #31
    I think Vitali realizes that he dosent have that much time left in his own career so hes trying to cement some sort of legacy by running through all of these undefeated young guys, it has nothing to do with them being American.

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    • Klitschko2011
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      #32
      Originally posted by The_Bringer
      Eddie Chambers, son.
      Povetkin beat the **** out of Eddie "American Hope" Chambers and made his whole family cry at ringside.

      Wlad will destroy Chambers, it will be a replay of Wlad/Byrd.

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      • EuropeFightFan
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        #33
        Eddie Chambers and Kevin Johnson have no chance against the Klitschkos.

        NO chance whatsoever.

        Thanks for the memories.

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          #34
          Originally posted by El_Guapo
          Why are Americans so ethnocentric about this ****?

          Quit crying about a by-gone era. Its OVER. Stop focusing on where the guy is from and enjoy them for being great boxers.

          In a way its a form of racism imo because the implication is that if its not "American" its not as valuable.

          American HW boxing was always a mirage anyways since for a large part of last century Cubans and Russians couldn't compete in the pro's.
          Good Post!

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          • Glamour Puss
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            #35
            Originally posted by FireGuyX
            Bull ****, Muhammad Ali, Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson are the most skilled heavyweights in boxing history, no Cuban or Russian wouldn't beat them in their primes.
            How can you know if the fights never took place? Felix Savon is considered one of the best HW's of all time.

            How can you be so sure that he wouldnt have beaten all the Americans handily?

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            • EuropeFightFan
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              #36
              Sepia tinted photos and film reels from years ago.

              "This is what an American heavyweight champion looked like"

              Stick them next to the dinosaur fossils.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Klitschko2009
                Good Post!
                Damn right. I was inspired. Americans are idiots anyway. Who cares what they think. They are a civilization in decline in every way, culturally, politically, and physically.

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                • Glamour Puss
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by EuropeFightFan
                  Sepia tinted photos and film reels from years ago.

                  "This is what an American heavyweight champion looked like"

                  Stick them next to the dinosaur fossils.
                  They're relics.
                  They are to boxing what the rotary phone is to modern communications.

                  Here's a photo of the average American HW:

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                  • Boxingwizard
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by El_Guapo
                    How can you know if the fights never took place? Felix Savon is considered one of the best HW's of all time.

                    How can you be so sure that he wouldnt have beaten all the Americans handily?
                    He's considered one of the best amateurs, but than again a lot of the Cuban amateurs that turned pro didn't all turn out to be great. I think people overrate Russian and Cuban boxers, they got some great boxers, but a lot of Americans are just as skilled and talented. There is a difference between pros and amateurs.

                    Also didn't Ruslan Chagaev beat Felix Savon? He didn't turn out to be a great champion.
                    Last edited by Boxingwizard; 10-25-2009, 08:31 PM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by FireGuyX
                      He's considered one of the best amateurs, but than again a lot of the Cuban amateurs that turned pro didn't all turn out to be great. I think people overrate Russian and Cuban boxers, they got some great boxers, but a lot of Americans are just as skilled and talented. There is a difference between pros and amateurs.

                      Also didn't Ruslan Chagaev beat Felix Savon? He didn't turn out to be a great champion.
                      Savon was much older by then. In his peak he was unbeatable.

                      And I'm not saying the Cubans and Russians would've won for sure, but we can't stand here and pretend that Ali and Frazier are the best, when they never fought the worlds best guys.

                      Maybe they would have, but we'll never know.

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