Manny Pacquiao: true champion? or just a belt winner?

[IMDAZED]

To me, I would've liked to see Manny hang around at 135 longer. Ruling that division for a year or two would be something special with the talent in there.

If you had to say what's more impressive, what would it be:

Ruling 135 - beating opponents like Marquez, Juan Diaz, Nate Campbell, Edwin Valero, and Joan Guzman.

or

Beating David Diaz, De La Hoya, and Ricky Hatton

I agree - and would definitely take the first. But option B brings in a whole lot of coin.

[endodoc]

This is FLoyd fans talk right here!!!!!!

btw, I can't stand Fraud..

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

I can't wait for the fight so people can see how big of an idiot you are. Lineal is the most important and Pac has 4 who else can say that.

What the **** that, have to do with what that other poster aid and what I replied?


Damn *******s cant have a sensable discussion without getting their ***** hurt!!

[Clyde Barrow]

Is the threadstarter another PBF stan? I haven't seen him make any of these threads before.

[Alibata]

So who else is doing it? Ricky Hatton can barely even move up one division, but has defended it over and over at 140. Is he a better champion than Pac?

This just another lame attempt to discredit somebody. Manny moved up to face fighters that were bigger risks. Manny can't please everyone and will always be discredited. The fact that he is fighting way above his weight proves how special he is. They want him to fight in his weight class to prove he is deserves his accolades? What kinda twisted thinking is that. Only in the mind of a jealous hater.

[The Underboss]

Pac is a lineal champion in 4 divisions. The other belts he won are just a little something extra. He's hardly the only fighter to win a belt he did not defend.

:good: co-sign.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Hey bitches, gett your vagisile. Nobody is hating on pacquiao here.

The TS just wants to clarify that Pacquiao is not a 6 division champ.


Get your **** together and start having a debate on the subject and stop accusing people or bieng fans or such or such and that they hate Pacquiao beause theyd ont call him god!!

[dans]

Is the threadstarter another PBF stan? I haven't seen him make any of these threads before.

I'm not Floyd stan, I'm no stan. In fact if you click the link in my sig that says Favorite fighters, you'll see Manny's name there, but not Floyd's. I like Manny, he's a great fighter.

[Alibata]

What the **** that, have to do with what that other poster aid and what I replied?


Damn *******s cant have a sensable discussion without getting their ***** hurt!!

Ooops sorry quoted the wrong guy.

[WhoreUs]

So much is made of Manny Pacquiao's rise from a 106 pound fighter to the #1 P4P fighter and current junior wleterweight champion, and rightfully so. Pac has faced good competition consistently and seems to get better each time he gets bigger.

But one question that should be asked is: What does becoming a seven division world champion mean if you weren't defending your title?

Don't get me wrong, at 130 pounds, Manny was a legit champion. He took on the best of the division and defended his title often. But since his move to lightweight, where he won his 5th division crown against a mediocre titlist in David Diaz, it seems defending your crown is not important anymore. It's more about being able to say you're a 7 division champion.

Let's be realistic. Manny is already considered a 6 division champ even though all he did at lightweight was beat probably the worst titlist of the bunch and never defended his title. Now let's say he beats Cotto for his 7th division, what are the chances of him actually defending that title? If you think he's going to fight Floyd next, then maybe he will, but then he's neglecting another belt, the Ring belt at 140. Either way, he'll be a 7 division champion that only really actively defended his title in 3 of those divisions (flyweight, super bantam, and super feather).

Manny Pacquiao is a great fighter and an ATG already. His accomplishments are tremendous even if holes can be poked in his legacy, but one must ask if Pacquiao wins against Cotto, is Manny Pacquiao really a 7 division champion? Or just a 7 division belt grabber? If there's no distinction to you, I guess I'm just old fashioned.

pacquiao won the 130 title in his last fight at 130. he never defended it.