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  • #11
    Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
    Manny is a 4 division Champion(112,126,130,140) and is a 4 division title holder(112,122,130,135)

    He is aiming for a 5th division belt, not championship!!!
    I hope others can also make the distinction.

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    • #12
      He didn't spend any time defending his 135 title, but looking back, is there any doubt that he wouldn't have beaten casamayor or juan diaz? I don't think anyone can argue against the fact that it's a lot harder to move up and win a title in a new higher weight division than it is to defend it over and over in the same division. Who in the lower divisions has any chance of beating him? That's why only special fighters are able to do it at all..i.e. mayweather, marquez, etc...Pacquiao is a great champion, maybe not at any specific weight, thus making the pound for pound distinction accurate.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by dans01234 View Post
        I hope others can also make the distinction.
        They wont!!

        We got to many ******s around here!!

        They dont know the difference between Lineal championship, RIng Magazine title and Alphabet belt!!!!

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        • #14
          Originally posted by endodoc View Post
          He didn't spend any time defending his 135 title, but looking back, is there any doubt that he wouldn't have beaten casamayor or juan diaz? I don't think anyone can argue against the fact that it's a lot harder to move up and win a title in a new higher weight division than it is to defend it over and over in the same division.
          That's been proven false too many times to mention.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by endodoc View Post
            He didn't spend any time defending his 135 title, but looking back, is there any doubt that he wouldn't have beaten casamayor or juan diaz? I don't think anyone can argue against the fact that it's a lot harder to move up and win a title in a new higher weight division than it is to defend it over and over in the same division. Who in the lower divisions has any chance of beating him? That's why only special fighters are able to do it at all..i.e. mayweather, marquez, etc...Pacquiao is a great champion, maybe not at any specific weight, thus making the pound for pound distinction accurate.
            This is FLoyd fans talk right here!!!!!!

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            • #16
              some of the greats did the same. it happens when you're moving up/down divisions and only having a few fights in between compared to ages ago when elite boxers fight more than 5times a yr. SRL only defended his WW crown, not the LMW, MW titles. duran missed a couple too i believe. i think Oscar was one of those who had tried to defend at least once all his titles.

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              • #17
                Lets just get this over with before other jelous haters come on board. Manny Pacquiao sucks. His accomplishments dont mean anything. Mayweather is the best.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
                  Right. I think pretty much everyone accepted back then that Diaz wasn't the most stellar opponent, but it's always nice to win a belt and he did it with ease. So why not? It's not like he struggled with Diaz, he went in there, tore him apart and took his ****. Nothing wrong with that.
                  To me, I would've liked to see Manny hang around at 135 longer. Ruling that division for a year or two would be something special with the talent in there.

                  If you had to say what's more impressive, what would it be:

                  Ruling 135 - beating opponents like Marquez, Juan Diaz, Nate Campbell, Edwin Valero, and Joan Guzman.

                  or

                  Beating David Diaz, De La Hoya, and Ricky Hatton

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
                    This is FLoyd fans talk right here!!!!!!
                    I can't wait for the fight so people can see how big of an idiot you are. Lineal is the most important and Pac has 4 who else can say that.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      That's been proven false too many times to mention.
                      So who else is doing it? Ricky Hatton can barely even move up one division, but has defended it over and over at 140. Is he a better champion than Pac?

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