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  • Pulmonary Embolii
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    #51
    Originally posted by ricardo garcia

    im sorry but the talent pool is thin just check out the boxrec of that guy he fought yesterday... he shouldnt have been anywhere near having a title shot because I'm a giant arse and a wankwad

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    • Haka
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      #52
      There are not a lot of boxers contend at the extreme left side of the bell curve starting at 108. If a man be a capable boxer, strong of body and well prepared, and he overcomes lesser opponents with ease, coming ever as the larger man and taking advantage of casting off weight, this alone proves little of his true worth. For if his natural size be much the same as another who has faced far heavier men, then such victories speak more of circumstance than of greatness. As it stands right now the best win resume is an almost 40 y/o Donaire who broke is face. There is nothing beyond it and there is no point in behaving as if it is so.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #53
        Originally posted by Haka
        There are not a lot of boxers contend at the extreme left side of the bell curve starting at 108. If a man be a capable boxer, strong of body and well prepared, and he overcomes lesser opponents with ease, coming ever as the larger man and taking advantage of casting off weight, this alone proves little of his true worth. For if his natural size be much the same as another who has faced far heavier men, then such victories speak more of circumstance than of greatness. As it stands right now the best win resume is an almost 40 y/o Donaire who broke is face. There is nothing beyond it and there is no point in behaving as if it is so.
        What part of he's competing in his 5th weight class are you not understanding?

        Also to claim there is "nothing beyond" his win over Donaire is wrong.

        This is kind of like when you said Teofimo Lopez and Shakur Stevenson don't have a significant win between him.

        Why talk on things you clearly have no clue about? It makes you look like an idiot, which you do constantly. Perhaps you are just an idiot.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Haka
          There are not a lot of boxers contend at the extreme left side of the bell curve starting at 108. If a man be a capable boxer, strong of body and well prepared, and he overcomes lesser opponents with ease, coming ever as the larger man and taking advantage of casting off weight, this alone proves little of his true worth. For if his natural size be much the same as another who has faced far heavier men, then such victories speak more of circumstance than of greatness. As it stands right now the best win resume is an almost 40 y/o Donaire who broke is face. There is nothing beyond it and there is no point in behaving as if it is so.
          Ryoichi Taguchi, Adrian Hernandez, Omar Narvaez, Kohei Kono, Jamie McDonnell, Juan Carlos Payano, Emmanuel Rodriguez, Nonito Donaire twice, Jason Moloney, Paul Butler, Stephen Fulton, Marlon Tapales, Luis Nery, TJ Doheny, Ramon Cardenas, Murodjon Akhmadaliev, and Alan David Picasso.

          17 of those guys were in the TBRB top 10 in the division Inoue beat them at the time of the fight (18 if you go by Ring).
          12 of those guys were in the TBRB top 5 in the division Inoue beat them at the time of the fight.
          6 of those guys were the top ranked fighter (other than himself) in the division Inoue beat them at the time of the fight.
          16 of those guys won a major world title at some point in their career (not counting interim or WBA secondary belts).
          8 of those guys were reigning world titlists in the division he beat them in.
          5 of those guys (so far) have won major world titles AFTER losing to Inoue.
          12 of those guys won more than one major world title in their careers.

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          • Haka
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            #55
            Still Inoue and Loma walk around the same weight difference is Loma fought against 160lbs+ 'ers.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Haka
              Still Inoue and Loma walk around the same weight difference is Loma fought against 160lbs+ 'ers.
              Lomachenko turned pro at a division Inoue hasn't even fought at yet. Get a grip on reality.

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              • Haka
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                #57
                When Loma was a young chap he won a gold medal at the 57kg division whereas in the Olympics there are essentially no weight cuts so that puts him around the gross of weight divisions Inoue has competed in factoring in the weight cut.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Haka
                  Still Inoue and Loma walk around the same weight difference is Loma fought against 160lbs+ 'ers.
                  What part of Inoue's 5th weight class is 122 are you not understanding?

                  Lomachenko's first weight class was 126.

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                  • KING S.O.G
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                    #59
                    Inoue need to be involved in a 50/50 fight. Put Rafael Espinoza in front of him.

                    126 lbs new division, new belt, new chapter!

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by KING S.O.G
                      Inoue need to be involved in a 50/50 fight. Put Rafael Espinoza in front of him.

                      126 lbs new division, new belt, new chapter!
                      Espinoza won't fight anybody good, get real. He won't even fight Angelo Leo or Nick Ball, let alone Inoue.

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