The GOAT! Pacquiao or Floyd or Crawford?

[champion4ever]

Money May was the greater of the three but Terence Bud Crawford was the better of the three with greater potential.

[The Big Dunn]

Why? Cotto & JMM are both perfectly valid examples and NOT the same. Manny was only fighting for the SECOND time at Welterweight when he fought Cotto and had previously not fought higher than 142lbs vs. DLH. That's NOT the same as Mayweather (who had 4 fights at Welterweight and was a champion) insisting on a catchweight to fight JMM and then coming in HEAVIER himself!

You're retarded beyond belief if you think the two are comparable.

I didn’t post they were the same. Stop creating a false narrative then trying to argue that.

I said stop making nut gobbler Manny fan excuses for a CW. It’s not right that a champion like Cotto should’ve defended his title at less than 147.

The difference is Bob made Cotto come in lighter while Floyd went down. Again idiot, the argument you’re making you should be using the Canelo fight.

[HisExcellency]

Go down what road?

You listed Morales as an ATG that he beat. I posted the point in his career he beat him. Since you can’t refute it you’re posting this to divert and deflect.

I don’t believe I made a post about Floyd’s wins the way you did about Manny’s.

JMM yeah.

ODH picked him you idiot. Shane refused to fight until he beat ODH.

Cotto stepped up after Manny got fake stitches and ducked once Nevada delayed Floyd’s jail start date. How is that a cherry pick.

Manny and Zab were cherry picks. Lmfao. You’re really just a dumbass casual.

Stop reacting like a nut gobbling baby because I told the truth about where Morales was in his career when Manny beat him.

Lmao you've got a million and one excuses for Mayweather fighting opponents at a catchweight (and for his cherry-picks) yet lambast Manny for beating Morales past his prime? Talk about double standards.

At the end of the day, due to his multiple retirements, lowball offers and insistence on drug testing (whilst using illegal substances himself ), Mayweather has DELAYED fighting the only opponents on his record that mattered and only fought them AFTER they'd all suffered multiple losses/knockouts or were green like Canelo.

You can make ALL the excuses you want (and deflect the blame on to his opponents) but there's clearly a PATTERN you dumb Mayweather cock riding ho and 99% of the forum recognises it!

[HisExcellency]

Canelo had 43 pro fights when he fought Floyd. How was he green as a boxer?

Ledbawa had 36 fights when Manny beat him. Was he green also?

Hahaha...and how many were Mexican cab drivers? How many fighter's reach their peak aged 23?

Stupid fuck!

[HisExcellency]

I didn’t post they were the same. Stop creating a false narrative then trying to argue that.

I said stop making nut gobbler Manny fan excuses for a CW. It’s not right that a champion like Cotto should’ve defended his title at less than 147.

The difference is Bob made Cotto come in lighter while Floyd went down. Again idiot, the argument you’re making you should be using the Canelo fight.

Geez you're retarded beyond belief...were you dropped on your head as a baby? You tried to claim that the JMM & Cotto catchweight examples were not valid when they make far more sense than Canelo given that Mayweather was a champion at Welterweight and had several fights there previously. Just because this particular example exposes Mayweather for what he truly is (a cherry-picker of the HIGHEST order) doesn't make it any less valid.

Yeah Floyd made JMM come up from Lightweight to fight him at a catchweight only to come in heavier himself on the scales...what a stand up guy!

As for Canelo, having already won a COUPLE of Light Middleweight world titles, shameful Mayweather drained Canelo to give himself an advantage (in addition to fighting him at 23yo). Is there anything else he could've done to handicap Canelo further like banning him from throwing punches?

[The Big Dunn]

Lmao you've got a million and one excuses for Mayweather fighting opponents at a catchweight (and for his cherry-picks) yet lambast Manny for beating Morales past his prime? Talk about double standards.

At the end of the day, due to his multiple retirements, lowball offers and insistence on drug testing (whilst using illegal substances himself ), Mayweather has DELAYED fighting the only opponents on his record that mattered and only fought them AFTER they'd all suffered multiple losses/knockouts or were green like Canelo.

You can make ALL the excuses you want (and deflect the blame on to his opponents) but there's clearly a PATTERN you dumb Mayweather cock riding ho and 99% of the forum recognises it!

What excuses? Show me where I made an excuse. All I posted was the difference. That isn’t making an excuse you simpleton.

Your 2nd paragraph is ridiculous. He fought them when he should’ve fought them. That is just sour g****s from loser fans of the guys he beat.

Yeah the pattern is he beats guys and the fans of those guys still haven’t gotten over it. They get mad every time Floyd is ahead of Manny in a poll of ATGs.

Just make sure you don’t keep making excuses for Manny’s cws. He doesn’t know you and will not run your head when you’re gobbling his nutsack.

[The Big Dunn]

Hahaha...and how many were Mexican cab drivers? How many fighter's reach their peak aged 23?

Stupid fuck!

Don’t go by age, go by professional fights you dumb ass casual ball gurgles.

You didn’t answer the questions . Try to this time.

How was Canelo green with 43 fights under his belt, regardless of age?

Ledbawa had 36 fights when Manny beat him. Was he green.

[The Big Dunn]

Geez you're retarded beyond belief...were you dropped on your head as a baby? You tried to claim that the JMM & Cotto catchweight examples were not valid when they make far more sense than Canelo given that Mayweather was a champion at Welterweight and had several fights there previously. Just because this particular example exposes Mayweather for what he truly is (a cherry-picker of the HIGHEST order) doesn't make it any less valid.

Yeah Floyd made JMM come up from Lightweight to fight him at a catchweight only to come in heavier himself on the scales...what a stand up guy!

As for Canelo, having already won a COUPLE of Light Middleweight world titles, shameful Mayweather weight-drained Canelo to give himself the advantage (in addition to fighting him at 23yo). Is there anything else he could've done to handicap Canelo further like insisting on fighting him with one arm tied behind his back?

No I didn’t. If you could read you’d have realized that.

That is a different argument . One which I didn’t justify. Further, if you could read, you’d see where I pointed out he even waited and changed it to 146 and paid JMM when he came in over. That has nothing to do with the Cotto Cw.

Now I think you came up for air from nut gurgling and are getting it. It was as bad for Floyd to cw Canelo as it was for Manny to cw Cotto.

Well everyone was calling for that fight so I’d do t see how his age matters when he had 43 pro fights. Most guy

[HisExcellency]

Don’t go by age, go by professional fights you dumb ass casual ball gurgles.

You didn’t answer the questions . Try to this time.

How was Canelo green with 43 fights under his belt, regardless of age?

Ledbawa had 36 fights when Manny beat him. Was he green.

Hahaha this stupid retard is now trying to make the argument that Canelo WASN'T green at 23yo when the vast majority of his resume consisted of nothing but cab drivers!

How many fighter's reach their peak aged 23yo retard?

Go on...dig your grave deeper THE BIG DUNCE

[HisExcellency]

What excuses? Show me where I made an excuse. All I posted was the difference. That isn’t making an excuse you simpleton.

Your 2nd paragraph is ridiculous. He fought them when he should’ve fought them. That is just sour g****s from loser fans of the guys he beat.

Yeah the pattern is he beats guys and the fans of those guys still haven’t gotten over it. They get mad every time Floyd is ahead of Manny in a poll of ATGs.

Just make sure you don’t keep making excuses for Manny’s cws. He doesn’t know you and will not run your head when you’re gobbling his nutsack.

Man you're really one STUPID cunt who keeps forgetting what THEY () wrote just a few minutes earlier. Do you have Alzheimer's or something?

You made excuses for Mayweather fighting DLH, Judah, Mosley, Pacquiao, Cotto, Marquez etc past their prime and tried to claim it was the other fighter's fault when EVERYBODY knows Mayweather is a cherry-picker of the highest order who uses spoiling tactics like multiple retirements, lowball offers & drug testing to prey on the weak and preserve his '0'.

At the end of the day, Manny will go down HIGHER in the history books because:-

1) Only 8 division champion in boxing (vs. 5 for Floyd)
2) Only 4 decade champion in boxing (vs. 3 for Floyd)
3) Started his career at Junior Flyweight (vs. Super Featherweight for Floyd) so is the much smaller man

Those are the ONLY achievements that matter and nothing a Mayweather DEEPTHROATER like you or anybody else can ever say will change that!