Could Alex Pereira have any real success in boxing?

[famicommander]

kickboxing is not the same as boxing. i am just saying UFC fighters who fans claims to have great striking, doesnt do well in pro boxing match.

Of course kickboxing is not the same as boxing. But pointing out that grapplers who switched to boxing from MMA didn't do well is not a coherent argument against an all time great kickboxer making the transition. We have an established history of kickboxers that have made the transition and done quite well for themselves in boxing.

The fact that Pereira is 38 is a pretty strong argument against him switching to boxing, but pointing out a bunch of Jiu-Jitsu guys and wrestlers that tried it got their asses whooped is a ridiculous comparison. He's not Nate Diaz, Frank Mir, Tyron Woodley, or Ben Askren. He got to where he is by throwing punches and leg kicks.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Of course kickboxing is not the same as boxing. But pointing out that grapplers who switched to boxing from MMA didn't do well is not a coherent argument against an all time great kickboxer making the transition. We have an established history of kickboxers that have made the transition and done quite well for themselves in boxing.

The fact that Pereira is 38 is a pretty strong argument against him switching to boxing, but pointing out a bunch of Jiu-Jitsu guys and wrestlers that tried it got their asses whooped is a ridiculous comparison. He's not Nate Diaz, Frank Mir, Tyron Woodley, or Ben Askren. He got to where he is by throwing punches and leg kicks.

He got KO'd by adesanya, he has flaws in his game.

[famicommander]

He got KO'd by adesanya, he has flaws in his game.

Adesanya is also an incredibly high level kickboxer.
79-5-0 in pro kickboxing
5-1-0 in pro boxing
31-1 in amateur kickboxing
24-5 in pro MMA

[NihonJim]

Nate Diaz's primary martial art training is in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, where he has a 3rd degree black belt. He has 12 submission wins against only 5 KO wins, and he has 2 KO losses in MMA versus only 1 submission loss. He is a grappler with decent hands, not a striker.

Pereira is a kickboxer by trade. He started out in amateur boxing with 31 fights, then switched to pro kickboxing where he had 40 pro fights and won two major world championships in two different divisions. He also had 1 pro boxing fight. He didn't start training in grappling until a few weeks before his pro MMA debut.

You're making an absolutely ridiculous comparison.

McGregor and Ngannou were known as the best strikers in the UFC and both were gash at boxing.

Easter Island head gets sparked like adesanya did to him

[IceTrayDaGang]

Adesanya is also an incredibly high level kickboxer.
79-5-0 in pro kickboxing
5-1-0 in pro boxing
31-1 in amateur kickboxing
24-5 in pro MMA

Yes, kickboxer. not a pro boxer. when they stepped in the ring in a pro boxing match against real boxers, they are gonna struggle... this been proven so many times already with UFC fighters crossing over to boxing.

[famicommander]

Yes, kickboxer. not a pro boxer. when they stepped in the ring in a pro boxing match against real boxers, they are gonna struggle... this been proven so many times already with UFC fighters crossing over to boxing.

Once again, they're kickboxers.

Just like Vitali Klitschko, Chris Algieri, Yoshiki Takei, and Sergey Lipinets were before they started boxing.

And, again, Adesanya has 5 pro boxing wins to his credit.

[famicommander]

McGregor and Ngannou were known as the best strikers in the UFC and both were gash at boxing.

Easter Island head gets sparked like adesanya did to him

McGregor and Ngannou both had less than a year of actual boxing training before they started training for the sport of MMA.

There is a difference between being a "good striker for MMA" and having an actual competitive background in striking sports.

Holly Holm, Alex Pereira, Israel Adesanya, Anderson Silva, Valentina Shevchenko, these are fighters that have high level striking accomplishments who have been successful in MMA. That's not the same as someone who came up grappling or spent most of their time training for the sport of MMA itself.

[IronDanHamza]

McGregor and Ngannou were known as the best strikers in the UFC and both were gash at boxing.

Easter Island head gets sparked like adesanya did to him

You say Ngannou is "gash at boxing" but he arguably beat Tyson Fury

[TMLT87]

You say Ngannou is "gash at boxing" but he arguably beat Tyson Fury

Yeah, I think the issue with Ngannou is he was thrown in at the absolute extreme end of things right away. Literally straight to top 5 level for his first two boxing matches. It was also one very easily correctable rookie mistake that lead to the Joshua fight going so badly for him. His chin may well be cracked now because of that, but if he'd come up a bit slower and taken on guys like Browne, Shyte, Wallin etc who knows what his real level would have been.

[bballchump11]