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  • Oregonian
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    #101
    Originally posted by hugh grant

    RJJ can be koed 10 times but is still thought of highly. If calzaghe was koed 8 times he probably wouldn't be as His resume isn't as strong.

    If rjj and calzaghe fought in each other's primes who knows what would happen. But rjj winning title at heavyweight is what gives him edge as well as wins over toney and prime hopkins.
    Nobody cares about calzaghe win over RJJ or hopkins, the wins over prime Kessler and lacy are the main wins
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    But we can speculate on who wins and I am yet to hear any analyst saying Calzaghe would have a chance against Roy at their prime.
    The only people who say that are Brits.

    it’s the same thing with PAC - Filipinos believe that PAC is the GOAT and that he’d beat Floyd in his “prime”, never mind that PAC was obliterated in his prime and at lower weight classes

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      #102
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

      Jeff Lacy was a bad dude based on what?
      Based on being in the 1996 olympic trials, 1998 US amateur champ at middleweight, member of the 2000 olympic team, amateur record 209 wins- 12 losses. IBF super middleweight world champ.

      None of that just happens by accident. Lacy was a bad dude. You would have lasted all of 10 seconds with him in his prime. Or even today

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        #103
        Originally posted by archiemoore1

        Based on being in the 1996 olympic trials, 1998 US amateur champ at middleweight, member of the 2000 olympic team, amateur record 209 wins- 12 losses. IBF super middleweight world champ.

        None of that just happens by accident. Lacy was a bad dude. You would have lasted all of 10 seconds with him in his prime. Or even today
        So Audley Harrison would be a "bad dude" then under your criteria? In fact, way "badder" than big bad Jeff Lacy.

        I'll just ask you the same question again and hope for a better answer, because this answer is pitiful.

        I'd suggest your answer should include pro career. Because "Olympic team member" doesn't quite cut it I'm afraid. There are plethora of people who fit that amateur career who were in fact, not "bad dudes".

        What did Jeff Lacy do to show he was a "bad dude"?

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          #104
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza

          So Audley Harrison would be a "bad dude" then under your criteria? In fact, way "badder" than big bad Jeff Lacy.

          I'll just ask you the same question again and hope for a better answer, because this answer is pitiful.

          I'd suggest your answer should include pro career. Because "Olympic team member" doesn't quite cut it I'm afraid. There are plethora of people who fit that amateur career who were in fact, not "bad dudes".

          What did Jeff Lacy do to show he was a "bad dude"?
          Look how easily you, a guy who probably can't run 1 mile and do 50 push ups, minimize a man's accomplishments. You think boxing is easy. Armchair critics are the worst kind of folks

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            #105
            Originally posted by archiemoore1

            Look how easily you, a guy who probably can't run 1 mile and do 50 push ups, minimize a man's accomplishments. You think boxing is easy. Armchair critics are the worst kind of folks
            Fallacious argument you've attempted to make there, I'm afraid. Won't wash.

            I'll ask again since you've now failed on two attempts;

            What did Jeff Lacy do to show he was a "bad dude"? It's not a trick question.

            Who did he beat in his pro career to have you form this opinion?
            Last edited by IronDanHamza; 10-07-2025, 12:17 PM.

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              #106
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza

              Fallacious argument you've attempted to make there, I'm afraid. Won't wash.

              I'll ask again since you've now failed on two attempts;

              What did Jeff Lacy do to show he was a "bad dude"? It's not a trick question.

              Who did he beat in his pro career to have you form this opinion?
              I'll ask u a question. Can you see your d..k when you look down, or is your belly in the way? You probably haven't seen your own d..k since you were 12.
              Anyone who makes it to the olympics is a bad dude. Because to get there is nothing but blood, sweat and tears. And to win a world title in the pros is also not a cakewalk. What have you accomplished in boxing ?

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                #107
                Originally posted by archiemoore1

                I'll ask u a question. Can you see your d..k when you look down, or is your belly in the way? You probably haven't seen your own d..k since you were 12.
                Anyone who makes it to the olympics is a bad dude. Because to get there is nothing but blood, sweat and tears. And to win a world title in the pros is also not a cakewalk. What have you accomplished in boxing ?

                ....I'll just ask again since you've now failed on three attempts;

                What did Jeff Lacy do to show he was a "bad dude"? It's not a trick question.

                Who did he beat in his pro career to have you form this opinion?

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza


                  ....I'll just ask again since you've now failed on three attempts;

                  What did Jeff Lacy do to show he was a "bad dude"? It's not a trick question.

                  Who did he beat in his pro career to have you form this opinion?
                  Everyone Lacy fought could destroy you in a few seconds with little to no effort. So if they're all nobodies, that makes u a super duper nobody. So what you say literally doesn't matter to anyone except yourself. You don't know sh..t about boxing

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by archiemoore1

                    Everyone Lacy fought could destroy you in a few seconds with little to no effort. So if they're all nobodies, that makes u a super duper nobody. So what you say literally doesn't matter to anyone except yourself. You don't know sh..t about boxing
                    Right but that's again a fallacious argument as I am not a boxer.

                    ....I'll just ask again since you've now failed on four attempts;

                    What did Jeff Lacy do to show he was a "bad dude"? It's not a trick question. It's an extremely simple question to answer.

                    Who did he beat in his pro career to have you form this opinion?

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                      #110
                      If you argue with a fool, they'll beat you on experience.

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