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  • MalevolentBite
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    #121
    Originally posted by hugh grant

    You literally making no sense. You saying floyd always beats pac as he's bigger. That's just an opinion as floyd only had 1 controversial win over pac. DLH and Cott o said pac in his prime beats floyd, again just an opinion but they shared ring with both. Actually DLH has flip flopped on who'd win, he has said floyd and I've heard him say pac too. But it's about if Pac was in prime, rather than if pac was naturally bigger that pac beats floyd. Calzaghe beats pac overall too I guess as he's bigger?
    Pac is better pf p fighter. That's all that matters and all we are discussing. You seem to want to think floyd beats pac if naturally same size too? Again that's just your opinion. We want tangible things of what's been accomplished in careers
    I never said that. I think (manny could win) if him and floyd was the same size thats why I put manny higher on the pound 4 pound. I clearly said this.

    Idc what cotto and DLH say. Oscar is a c0ke head and cotto was a average fighter.

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      #122
      Originally posted by SouthpawRight
      but 147 and 154 Floyd was a pure boxer-counterstriker

      Roberto a top 3 all time infighter close quarters the range that works best against Floyd

      common opponents picked Floyd to beat manny. and that's what happened

      you want tangible things that were achieved in their careers rofl

      manny was 150 on the night of to Floyd's 148

      going off of weight how boxing measures size manny was bigger. Floyd mopped manny anyways 10-2'ing that ass. manny could only win 2 clear rounds the fourth and sixth

      manny simply lacks the skillset to overcome the difference in levels and stylistic edge for Floyd
      150lbs isnt his natural weight thats the point. He can gain all the weight he wants. That doesnt equal natural strength for your original body frame.

      Manny's ideal weight is probably 140lb and Below. However I am one of the people who view Mannys success at 147lbs as not naturally 'clean'..

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        #123
        Originally posted by SouthpawRight
        but 147 and 154 Floyd was a pure boxer-counterstriker

        Roberto a top 3 all time infighter close quarters the range that works best against Floyd

        common opponents picked Floyd to beat manny. and that's what happened

        you want tangible things that were achieved in their careers rofl

        manny was 150 on the night of to Floyd's 148

        going off of weight how boxing measures size manny was bigger. Floyd mopped manny anyways 10-2'ing that ass. manny could only win 2 clear rounds the fourth and sixth

        manny simply lacks the skillset to overcome the difference in levels and stylistic edge for Floyd
        Top 3? You got him over Chavez, Frazier, Sonny Listen, Rocky, Ragging Bull and etc ?

        Floyd would dance around Duran like Leonard did in the rematch. You are giving Duran too much credit. He is not a complex fighter.

        You gotta set traps for Floyd. Like Molsey and Judah did who are both slick boxer punchers.

        Duran would make floyd fight on the back foot. Thats what floyd wants. You gotta trick floyd to feel more comfortable with leading off then rock him.

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          #124
          Originally posted by MalevolentBite

          150lbs isnt his natural weight thats the point. He can gain all the weight he wants. That doesnt equal natural strength for your original body frame.

          Manny's ideal weight is probably 140lb and Below. However I am one of the people who view Mannys success at 147lbs as not naturally 'clean'..
          I do not believe manny is that small

          He could have returned at 46 to 140 but instead chose 147

          Originally posted by MalevolentBite

          Top 3? You got him over Chavez, Frazier, Sonny Listen, Rocky, Ragging Bull and etc ?

          Floyd would dance around Duran like Leonard did in the rematch. You are giving Duran too much credit. He is not a complex fighter.

          You gotta set traps for Floyd. Like Molsey and Judah did who are both slick boxer punchers.

          Duran would make floyd fight on the back foot. Thats what floyd wants. You gotta trick floyd to feel more comfortable with leading off then rock him.
          the guys who tried this Zab and manny had less success than the all up in your ass pressure guys Jose Miguel Marcos

          Oscar isn't exactly a pressure guy either but the all up in your ass pressure allowed Oscar to peel 4 rounds off of Floyd: the 2nd the 4th the 6th

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            #125
            Originally posted by SouthpawRight
            I do not believe manny is that small

            He could have returned at 46 to 140 but instead chose 147

            the guys who tried this Zab and manny had less success than the all up in your ass pressure guys Jose Miguel Marcos

            Oscar isn't exactly a pressure guy either but the all up in your ass pressure allowed Oscar to peel 4 rounds off of Floyd: the 2nd the 4th the 6th
            Floyd had to start timeing Zab in his fight. He definitely had to make adjustments. Oscar mixes it up. Which makes him difficult to fight when hes focus. Also I wouldnt consider that a prime Oscar that fought Floyd and definitely not when Oscar lost to Manny.

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              #126
              Originally posted by MalevolentBite

              Also I wouldnt consider that a prime Oscar that fought Floyd and definitely not when Oscar lost to Manny.
              Careful,
              Pac beating "the brakes" off of DLH is one of Pac's biggest W's

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                #127
                Originally posted by TheProudLunatic

                Careful,
                Pac beating "the brakes" off of DLH is one of Pac's biggest W's
                Whether dlh was past prime, dlh still has the sense to realise pac is his toughest opponent ever. And from a man who fought pernell, chavez, hopkins. That says a lot. So yes, it is an.important win

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by hugh grant

                  Whether dlh was
                  Only a foaming at the mouth Pac Boi would question "whether" or not DONE La Hoya was past it or not vs Pac.......

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                    #129
                    Crawford moves up on this list.

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