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    Comments Thread For: Lennox Lewis urges Moses Itauma to exhibit patience amid Usyk speculation

    Former world heavyweight king Lennox Lewis believes Moses Itauma is the future of the division, but should wait for Oleksandr Usyk to move on before claiming the throne.
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    but but but this guy is the future of boxing and the guy who can show the boxing world just how over rated usyk actually is and and and he only only beat the shells of a few guys who were decrepid and end stage with moses young and fresh please dont discourage him from fighting usyk

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    • Bronx2245
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      BIG UP LENN-OX! He’s speaking facts! “Mama used to say…take your time young man!” Salute to Junior! If you know, you know!

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      • Bennyleonard99
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        #4
        Surprising take by Lennox. Itauma is ready for anyone, the easy early blowout blitz of Whyte proved that. Usyk is arguably the goat, he has never made a mistake in his career, think how much Itauma can learn from the experience of facing the goat? Similar to Leonard vs Duran 1, Vitali vs Lennox, Azumah Nelson vs Salvador Sanchez, Mike Tyson vs Quick Tillis and Berbick.

        Itauma is ready for Usyk - if he believes he is. Lennox seems to be overprotective of Itauma and that "protection" BS is what ruined the sport. Go for it. Dare to be great now. Lennox is an all time great but he's wrong here, Itauma is ready for the title shot vs the goat.

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        • Moz_boxing
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          #5
          Originally posted by Bennyleonard99
          Surprising take by Lennox. Itauma is ready for anyone, the easy early blowout blitz of Whyte proved that. Usyk is arguably the goat, he has never made a mistake in his career, think how much Itauma can learn from the experience of facing the goat? Similar to Leonard vs Duran 1, Vitali vs Lennox, Azumah Nelson vs Salvador Sanchez, Mike Tyson vs Quick Tillis and Berbick.

          Itauma is ready for Usyk - if he believes he is. Lennox seems to be overprotective of Itauma and that "protection" BS is what ruined the sport. Go for it. Dare to be great now. Lennox is an all time great but he's wrong here, Itauma is ready for the title shot vs the goat.
          All of your examples are not even close to this scenario. The only examples that comes to my mind which are kind of similiar are Mayweather vs Canelo and Teofimo Lopez vs Lomachenko but in this case it turned out to be the right fight at the right time.

          The examples you mentioned are not people that had been super young and green without any experience on the world level. I get that waiting too long can hurt the sport but there is a very thin line between waiting too long and rushing a guy who did not deserves a fight just based on the level of opposition he fought + in this sport rushing a guy can destroy a whole career not by taking a loss but by taking life changing damage which was unnecessary.

          Moses has time and should fight 2 more fights against top 5 ranked guys and if Usyk is still around he deserves a shot.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Moz_boxing

            All of your examples are not even close to this scenario. The only examples that comes to my mind which are kind of similiar are Mayweather vs Canelo and Teofimo Lopez vs Lomachenko but in this case it turned out to be the right fight at the right time.

            The examples you mentioned are not people that had been super young and green without any experience on the world level. I get that waiting too long can hurt the sport but there is a very thin line between waiting too long and rushing a guy who did not deserves a fight just based on the level of opposition he fought + in this sport rushing a guy can destroy a whole career not by taking a loss but by taking life changing damage which was unnecessary.

            Moses has time and should fight 2 more fights against top 5 ranked guys and if Usyk is still around he deserves a shot.
            Usyk does not do life changing damage to anybody and he is not going to do it to the most fearsome challenger he will ever face. Itauma is not some kind just out of amateurs, he just decimated a top ten or even top five contender with shocking ease. Itauma has extraordinary speed, power, precision and the machinery to deliver the explosives. I think he's 50-50 vs Usyk RIGHT NOW. He's getting better by the week. Usyk seems to be getting better too. The fight is right RIGHT NOW. Itauma is a prodigy who has blossomed and graduated in his last fight into one of the most devastating heavyweight forces the sport has ever seen. You can underscore and discredit Whyte all you want but he's still a top ten or five contender. He's same level as Parker Chisora, Fury AJ Zhang all those guys.

            I find it very interesting Usyk is staying silent about Itauma.

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              #7
              Usyk will fight the guy Turki will want him to fight.

              It will be Kabayel or Itauma.

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                This fight does bloody nothing for me I'd honestly much rather see Usyk vs Kabayel or even Parker or either of those vs Itauma

                Usyk vs Itauma is too predictable even with what little we know about the latter. We've seen him go 6 rounds twice vs journeymen and he hardly looked fresh and seemed rather frustrated actually.
                I suspect he is fitter and has a better idea how to pace himself etc but it won't be enough.
                He'll just gas out and get drowned in the second half of the fight, he'll get stopped late. He relies on reflexes, soon as he fades and the sting goes out of his shots (and it will being fast-twitch) he'll be a sitting duck. Then the people who hyped it up will say he was too green, Usyk is ducking Parker/Kabayel etc

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                  #9
                  This is why we start with 4 rounds then 6 then 8, 10 then 12 and build up.

                  You don't go from smashing the lowest level fighters possible in a single round to jumping straight into a 12 round against the ultimate 12 round fighter and a super skilled, southpaw great. Its insanity. If Usyk had shown anything less than a granite chin I'd get the appeal more.
                  I don't care how good you are, Usyk is too experienced and seen dozens of explosive southpaws. He's not going to give anything away early then will just take him clean apart.
                  You aren't just going to walk straight through Usyk in a few rounds especially when he knows that is your only chance.

                  His window is tiny, he hasn't a single stoppage or even a knockdown past the 2nd round - does he even carry his power?

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                    #10
                    Sage advice from a vet-don’t rush an ass whoopin.

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