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  • Doctor_Tenma
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    #21
    Already made a thread on it. Cotto isn't equiped well enough. It's alot more then the options in the poll.

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    • βetamax
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      #22
      One thing I've done is taken a look at how he fared against Marquez. He of course gave him the most problems and I believe that was due to great timing and counterpunching. Now, I don't think Cotto isn't quite as good in this area but still pretty good nonetheless and has proven it against speedy fighters like Mosley and Judah. He does however hold the advantage in size, power, and speed, and maybe chin. All of these factors combined make me think Pac is going to be in for a tough fight.

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      • The Noose
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        #23
        Originally posted by Ravishing
        Though I believe a good amount of you truly believe Pacquiao will win, I sense more people having a tough time explaining how and why Pacquiao will win besides the speed factor.

        I personally have seen how both would be able to beat the other, but I also know fighters don't automatically change their styles overnight (as has been proven time and time again).

        Can Manny Pacquiao be successful fighting Cotto as he's fought his opponents in the last couple of years?

        Discuss...
        He will fight Cotto in a similar way he fought Hatton and Oscar, but they were both sitting targets with no real offence.

        He will fight Cotto like he did Oscar in the first couple of rounds. Being cautious and sneaking in straight shots, darting in and out.


        I still think he will get caught and hurt by Cotto. Can he survive 12 rounds??

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        • RL_GMA
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          #24
          Originally posted by Dknight
          Main reason why I think Manny can't win is because his speed will become less of a factor in helping him against Cotto. I think speed is what's being overrated right now in this fight. Speed kills? It kills those who don't know or lack the necessary skill to deal with it, however speed comes to an abrupt halt when is dealt with accordingly, specifically timing as its worst nightmare, something Cotto is impeccable at with his hand speed.

          I've seen very fast boxers hit the canvas, so no one will buy the tale of a speedy fighter being invincible. One or two nicely timed body shots by Cotto will definitely take a toll on Pacquiao's speed, that's almost inevitable. Don't forget Manny is more of a brawler and not exactly known to display superb boxing technique. Cotto on the other hand knows how to box with well-defined technique. If he concentrates on this once his manages to neutralize Pacman's speed, I don't see the fight going the distance.

          I just can't see Manny winning in every possible scenario, unless maybe by Split Decision if by some miracle the fight lasts for 12 rounds. But Cotto will most likely stop him before that, he has all the necessary tools to do so.
          Exactly how I see it.

          Almost everyone I see says Pacquiao is going to be too fast, but speed doesn't guarantee wins, especially against a guy who's fought both southpaws and speed fighters and knows how to time you. People make mention of how it's a mistake for Cotto to box Pacquiao. But in reality, that's where I think Cotto has an edge IMO. Pacquiao is fast, but he doesn't set up like a boxer and use his jab to get his shots off, he goes straight at you and throws a lot of punches. But what happens if Cotto is able to start timing Pacquiao's speed? Does Pacquiao go and just make it a full fledged fight?

          I believe Cotto's skills and size are gonna show in this fight. People forget Pacquiao isn't an elusive defender by any means.

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          • Animalistic 5.0
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            #25
            Originally posted by Bob Anomaly
            He will fight Cotto in a similar way he fought Hatton and Oscar, but they were both sitting targets with no real offence.

            He will fight Cotto like he did Oscar in the first couple of rounds. Being cautious and sneaking in straight shots, darting in and out.

            I still think he will get caught and hurt by Cotto. Can he survive 12 rounds??
            That wil be Pacquiao biggest mistake. That style of fighting by Pacquiao will play right in Cotto favor because of Cotto's powerful jab (Something Hatton and De La Hoya did not have). The timing will be the key in this fight.

            You just can't move in and out like that against a fighter like Cotto because you will pay the price.

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            • IMDAZED
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              #26
              Agree with threadstarter and would like to hear some opinions (no, not from you recent bandwagon hoppers who all of a sudden just love Pac). I don't see Pacquiao outboxing Cotto, which I guess is why I say that - as big a chance as it is - I can only give Pacquiao a puncher's chance in this fight.

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              • joelab75
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                #27
                Manny has speed and underrated power. he will beat Cotto.

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                • ThePunchingBag
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                  #28
                  This is a very tough fight for both fighters, but more and more I see Cotto's chin and power being overrated and Pacquiao's evasiveness and power being underrated. If Pac lands anything near that Hatton punch, which I think in the course of 12 rounds he probably will, Cotto is taking a nap. At the same time people are saying that if Cotto lands ANYTHING Pac is hitting the canvas, but they forget Cotto is the kind of fighter that breaks you down not send you to sleep.

                  I think Pac's evasiveness will not let Cotto land the punches he needs in order to break Pac down. At the same time Pac will be landing 2 or 3 for Cotto's 1. Sometime during the fight Cotto gets a cut, loses vision and gets KO. Cotto has the weakest chin out of all the top WW's today.

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                  • Aracibo04
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                    #29
                    speed alone will not be enough for manny to beat cotto, it is true that e=mc2

                    energy = mass x speed of light. in this case the speed of manny, no im not saying that manny is fast as lighting. what I am saying is that mass x speed is what kills. the key factor is whether manny's power and speed can hurt cotto. if manny cannot hurt cotto with his power from his speed then manny will not win.

                    the inverse is true also. if cotto combination of power and speed cannot hurt manny then its 50/50 and goes 12 rounds. cotto is the bigger man thus more mass, cotto then does not necessarily need to be as fast as manny to hurt manny.

                    it should be a great fight nonetheless.

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                    • Clint650
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                      #30
                      everyone keeps saying that Cotto is going to be surprised by Manny's speed and power, but i think Manny will taste a true welterweight punch early in the fight and Roach and Pac will be the one's stunned.

                      Cotto by Ko if he fights like the bigger man.

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