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  • Ch@mpBox@PR
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    #51
    Originally posted by Motofan
    Yes. I think he will show Cotto everything he has right away and will try to blow him out. If Cotto can take that and give as good as he gets I think he will impose himself on Pac and eventually start to beat him up. Pac is too confident in his power now to try and box for 12 rounds. He is going to try and knock Cotto out because he believes he can.
    great great assesment buddy.

    Thats the only way I see Pac winning. If he coughts Cotto early win something big.

    Other than that, i dont see Manny boxing well against Cotto, nor brawling. So the only way Manny can beat him, is letting everything out on the first rounds hoping Cotto cant take his punches.

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    • tesla_power
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      #52
      Originally posted by Ravishing
      Thing with that is Cotto without question is going to be the hardest puncher he's ever faced up to this point, so taking punishment from Cotto while getting shots off isn't necessarily the best idea. But when Pacquiao faces other offensive fighters he loves to trade. Pacquiao is fast, but I don't believe he has the ability to simply box Cotto all night like I believe Mayweather would be able to. Pacquiao was successful using those angles against a guy like Diaz who's very stationary, but Cotto doesn't fight that way either.

      I'm truthfully trying to find a fight where Pacquiao boxed a complete 12 rounds without exchanging and not getting hit. I believe thats what a lot of people see happening in this fight.
      Unlikely. Pac's style moved to a hit and move technique ever since the Diaz fight. Most probably because of Roach insistence that he will utilize his speed against the bigger guys. And it was very successful.

      IMO, Pac's advantage have always been speed (and his calves ). Every attribute ( off-angles shot, power, footwork, combinations, slipping punches , etc...) he have revolves around his speed to pull it off. If cotto can slow down pac, he would gain a lot overall.

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      • Ch@mpBox@PR
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        #53
        Anyways, my take on the fight is, that manny will try and blow Cotto away fast, but Cotto will come in, with his earmuffs, and jabbing a lot and movin a bit, just seeing what Manny have. After Cotto times Mannys punches by the 2nd or 3rd round, its over for Manny. I see either the ref or Roach stoping the fight in between 6-8 rounds!

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        • nj_evoixgsr
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          #54
          pac vantage points: speed, creating angles, intangibles due to his "inbalance", element of SURPRISE**, STAMINA,

          SPEED - he will obviously outwork cotto with amazing speed and combinations
          creating angles - comes in at different angles with punches delivered from his huge calves DIGGING DEEP
          intangibles - due to the fact manny is not a "boxer" he has many intangibles to worry about when actually setting up a game plan
          element of surprise - cotto will be facing a different type of animal. i think pacs speed, power and stamina will surprise cotto
          stamina - if it goes passed the 6 round and cotto shows any type of stamina issues. i think he should just throw in the towel. he will be done by 8-9 round and look like dela hoya. minus well just throw in the towel before he puts you out to retire early.

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          • Obdeboondocks
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            #55
            Originally posted by Ravishing
            See, that's what I think people don't get. If Pacquiao just goes in and out, eventually Cotto's going to time him and catch him. He knows how to adapt in a fight. When Pac gets in trouble he brawls, that's just his style. The illusion I think people have is Cotto being shot or too slow and Pacquiao just overwhelming Cotto. But how much of that is reality?

            in regards to cottos skills... i agree that cotto has a really good chance of bringing out that warrior brawling mentality of pac. This is going to be forced and is inevitable. Im looking forward to this since both are really fun to watch. however although a pac fan im realistic and i know that this is when cotto has the best opp to hurt an unproven welter. if this happens early on (say 3-4), cotto has the advantage. it seems to be that analyzing the imperative of "when" not "if" the war happens will define a winner.

            Say the war is felt early on, then cotto gets the advantage of having a more predictable pac and like marquez the first time around, he might have to eat some early left hands to learn the timing for the middle-late rounds. this is the bigger "if" that comes after the "when" however, if cotto can really get the timing.

            if cotto does not 1) bring out a war early on and more importantly 2) get the timing of pac's speed early on, pac's speed (which i said would be his best thing going for him) will continue to be the defining factor and a war forced later on might just be that, too late.

            to me the task of getting into a war early is the only way cotto can do this not just because of his physical advantage, but because of his recent mental butterflies in rounds 9 and on. and personally im still not necessarily sure about cotto getting pac's timing down as early as he should since stylistically he really isn't a counter punching timing oriented fighter, but more of a lead -left handed -fighter- straight on kinda guy.

            like i said though, all this theory talk is fun till the fight. i really cant wait to see what actually happens.

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            • loui_ludwig
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              #56
              Didn't vote but Pac will win cuz of Roach's game plan. Speed and foot movement will be a factor for Pacquiao.

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              • RisAri0
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                #57
                I'd pick all the above

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                • MaD RoBoT
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Animalistic 5.0
                  Hatton is an overrated bum with no skills and doesn't even have a jab or timing skills like Cotto.

                  How can you even bring his name in this discussion is beyond me.

                  im not comparing Ricky to Miguel

                  im commenting that Hatton tasted what its like to underestimate Pac because of same observation he saw

                  if Miguel does the same mistake, he'll be wakin up on some stretcher early on

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                  • JOM'S
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                    #59
                    i voted on the first 3 options, combination of the 3 ....

                    PAC is fast and proven in a way that he can at the least compete in higher weights than he is accustomed to, not to mention that he has learn & gain a lot fighting MAB, EM & JMM

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                    • S A M U R A I
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                      #60
                      He beat Oscar and Hatton soundly in higher weights:

                      Yes, and now we know he carries his weight and power up well. Unlike Marquez.

                      He beat greats like Morales, Barrera, and Marquez @ Featherweight:

                      Yep. Great experience in big fights would surely help any fighter.

                      He's too fast:

                      This is obvious. There isn't a person on the planet who's watched Manny and doesn't have an opinion on his speed.

                      He's too strong:

                      Yeah, very strong at the weight, I guess. He also has a strong punch, according to certain sparring partners, he hits harder than Margarito.

                      Cotto is shot:

                      No. Faded? Maybe.

                      Not so sure anymore...

                      No. I'm pretty sure how this fight will turn out.



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