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  • MindBat
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    #11
    Aside from the speed, Manny is a southpaw, and is likely to give Cotto trouble.

    Most consider Cotto's loss to Margarito to have a negative effect on him, despite looking decent against a tough opponent as Clottey.

    Neither fighter has been knocked out in recent fights, so I think it'll go the distance.

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    • Kevin Jesus
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      #12
      1. Pacquiao is in his prime, he's faster than Mosley and Judah(who have been the fastest fighters that Cotto has fought) but no stronger and although he's not stronger he's still very strong! his power carried with his weight. He will throw more punches than Judah, every time Judah threw his left he caught Cotto with it. Cotto had no defense for Judah's left.

      2. Cotto has the habit of playing defense with his chin, i don't know why because he has the skills to move around and avoid shots, i have seen him do it but he stopped doing it on the elite level. You can't fight Pacquiao with your chin having a "hit it here" sign, Pacquiao will hit it there if you ask for it.

      3. Cotto is damaged, sadly. Pacquiao knows how to put pressure on fighters if he has to, not only that, he knows how to finish off his opponents. Once Cotto sees 80-100 punches a round be thrown at him, he'll get on his bike. Cotto does not have the tools to beat Manny Pacquiao.

      I see this going down like Dirrell-Froch, minus the holding, hometown decision, and minus Pacquiao switching from southpaw to conventional styles, plus a TKO for Pacquiao. The difference in handspeed will be like Tarver described Dirrell's handspeed to Froch "like night and day".
      Last edited by Kevin Jesus; 10-19-2009, 03:06 PM.

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      • Ravishing
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        #13
        Originally posted by Syf
        Pac is too fast, mobile...and deceptively powerful. He will find angles..and he will utilize his speed to throw in explosive straight shots as well.

        He's not the type to go to a knee, or quit. Cotto, bless his heart, did. (yes, I know Marg's gloves were probly loaded) But if you hit Pac with a ****ing battering ram, he wouldn't go to a knee until he was knocked out. Pac will go out on his shield. He will have more will and determination in there.

        Plus, if he hits Cotto at all like that left he hit Hatton with, it will do severe damage, if not stop Cotto outright
        Thing with that is Cotto without question is going to be the hardest puncher he's ever faced up to this point, so taking punishment from Cotto while getting shots off isn't necessarily the best idea. But when Pacquiao faces other offensive fighters he loves to trade. Pacquiao is fast, but I don't believe he has the ability to simply box Cotto all night like I believe Mayweather would be able to. Pacquiao was successful using those angles against a guy like Diaz who's very stationary, but Cotto doesn't fight that way either.

        I'm truthfully trying to find a fight where Pacquiao boxed a complete 12 rounds without exchanging and not getting hit. I believe thats what a lot of people see happening in this fight.

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        • Ravishing
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          #14
          Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
          1. Pacquiao is in his prime, he's faster than Mosley and Judah(who have been the fastest fighters that Cotto has fought) but no stronger and although he's not stronger he's still very strong! his power carried with his weight. He will throw more punches than Judah, every time Judah threw his left he caught Cotto with it. Cotto had no defense for Judah's left.

          2. Cotto has the habit of playing defense with his chin, i don't know why because he has the skills to move around and avoid shots, i have seen him do it but he stopped doing it on the elite level. You can't fight Pacquiao with your chin having a "hit it here" sign, Pacquiao will hit it there if you ask for it.

          3. Cotto is damaged, sadly. Pacquiao knows how to put pressure on fighters if he has to, not only that, he knows how to finish off his opponents. Once Cotto sees 80-100 punches a round be thrown at him, he'll get on his bike. Cotto does not have the tools to beat Manny Pacquiao.

          I see this going down like Dirrell-Froch, minus the holding, hometown decision, and minus Pacquiao switching from southpaw to conventional styles, plus a TKO for Pacquiao. The difference in handspeed will be like Tarver described Dirrell's handspeed to Froch "like night and day".
          So you believe Pacquiao will engage with Cotto and throw 100 punches per round with Cotto not being able to get anything off?

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          • Dknight
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            #15
            Main reason why I think Manny can't win is because his speed will become less of a factor in helping him against Cotto. I think speed is what's being overrated right now in this fight. Speed kills? It kills those who don't know or lack the necessary skill to deal with it, however speed comes to an abrupt halt when is dealt with accordingly, specifically timing as its worst nightmare, something Cotto is impeccable at with his hand speed.

            I've seen very fast boxers hit the canvas, so no one will buy the tale of a speedy fighter being invincible. One or two nicely timed body shots by Cotto will definitely take a toll on Pacquiao's speed, that's almost inevitable. Don't forget Manny is more of a brawler and not exactly known to display superb boxing technique. Cotto on the other hand knows how to box with well-defined technique. If he concentrates on this once his manages to neutralize Pacman's speed, I don't see the fight going the distance.

            I just can't see Manny winning in every possible scenario, unless maybe by Split Decision if by some miracle the fight lasts for 12 rounds. But Cotto will most likely stop him before that, he has all the necessary tools to do so.

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            • nujabes77
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              #16
              Originally posted by Ravishing
              Though I believe a good amount of you truly believe Pacquiao will win, I sense more people having a tough time explaining how and why Pacquiao will win besides the speed factor.

              I personally have seen how both would be able to beat the other, but I also know fighters don't automatically change their styles overnight (as has been proven time and time again).

              Can Manny Pacquiao be successful fighting Cotto as he's fought his opponents in the last couple of years?

              Discuss...


              plsssssssssssssssss


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              • Ravishing
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                #17
                Originally posted by pacman777
                plsssssssssssssssss
                In all honesty homie, none of these videos are doing anything more than showing both guys training hard. I've seen videos of Pac much faster than this a few years back. The only thing I see that's noticeable and everyone is in agreement with is the size differential between both being we;ve seen them together on several occasions.

                But truthfully, is Pacquiao going to be able to box Cotto for 12 rounds and not get hit or is he going to exchange with Cotto regardless? Which of the two have you seen him do most and be more successful at?

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                • Animalistic 5.0
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by pacman777
                  plsssssssssssssssss
                  That is the best you got?

                  A video and a plsssssssssssssssss.

                  Why don't you give the TS a real response on what he ask?


                  Show some boxing IQ kid.
                  Last edited by Animalistic 5.0; 10-19-2009, 03:37 PM.

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                  • top7gun
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
                    1. Pacquiao is in his prime, he's faster than Mosley and Judah(who have been the fastest fighters that Cotto has fought) but no stronger and although he's not stronger he's still very strong! his power carried with his weight. He will throw more punches than Judah, every time Judah threw his left he caught Cotto with it. Cotto had no defense for Judah's left.

                    2. Cotto has the habit of playing defense with his chin, i don't know why because he has the skills to move around and avoid shots, i have seen him do it but he stopped doing it on the elite level. You can't fight Pacquiao with your chin having a "hit it here" sign, Pacquiao will hit it there if you ask for it.

                    3. Cotto is damaged, sadly. Pacquiao knows how to put pressure on fighters if he has to, not only that, he knows how to finish off his opponents. Once Cotto sees 80-100 punches a round be thrown at him, he'll get on his bike. Cotto does not have the tools to beat Manny Pacquiao.

                    I see this going down like Dirrell-Froch, minus the holding, hometown decision, and minus Pacquiao switching from southpaw to conventional styles, plus a TKO for Pacquiao. The difference in handspeed will be like Tarver described Dirrell's handspeed to Froch "like night and day".
                    his strenght has always been underestimated..... i don't really know why people think that way....... from 108 to 147 as welterweight, he is a freak of nature. even if he loose to cotto, that is still a way too high of an accomplishment to be ignored.

                    i'm not here to lick his ass...... i amjust stating the facts.

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                    • -MAKAVELLI-
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
                      I see this going down like Dirrell-Froch, minus the holding, hometown decision, and minus Pacquiao switching from southpaw to conventional styles, plus a TKO for Pacquiao. ".


                      this passage made me lol

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