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  • #41
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

    3 even rounds in a row Look at this brain dead idiot.

    All 3 judges had Floyd winning 9, 10, 11 and 12.
    Difference was marginal. Lots of missing punches / deflected punches from both sides.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

      Most boxing fans know pac was way more past prime than floyd when they fought, but as pac is greater he disguised it better, I mean pac getting koed alone by jm m alone probably aged pac years
      Floyd fans in reality know floyd looked poor against Madonna and pac and the excuse they use is floyd was more past prime? I honestly don't believe anyone who knows boxing is buying that though.
      Well the counter argument is Floyd is two years older, but in ring age Manny had far more fights and far more wars.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza

        Where did I say Pacquaio was in his prime,
        You sitting here justifying Manny not being shopworn are you not

        Pacquaio on the other hand fights and wins at world level for the following 4 years, including beating P4P Top 10 ranked fighters, THEN comes back 6 years after that and almost wins a world title again.

        The man said Manny was shopworn, and you sitting here saying trying to prove he was not
        Last edited by djtmal; 08-06-2025, 05:19 AM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza

          Somehow Floyd was in “better nick” when Floyd’s older, coming off 2 hard gruelling fights with Maidana, one that he arguably lost, and Pacquaio on the other hand is coming off dominant wins over Rios, Bradley and Algeri where he barely loses a round.

          Then proceeding that, Floyd fights 2 unranked guys and retires, Pacquaio on the other hand fights and wins at world level for the following 4 years, including beating P4P Top 10 ranked fighters, THEN comes back 6 years after that and almost wins a world title again.

          And yet Floyd was the one in “better nick”? Make that make sense please.
          im talking from pacs prime level he was very much reduced at that time, thats what i saw anyway, he took a lot of punishment in some of his fights for example the margo fight is highlighted by his coach as one that took a lot from him with a hard recovery from it, freddie highlights that when talking about his career

          https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comm...had_hard_time/

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          • #45
            Originally posted by djtmal View Post

            Well the counter argument is Floyd is two years older, but in ring age Manny had far more fights and far more wars.
            Pac was 10 years older than thurman and way more fights yet beat tnurman. How much credit does that deserve then.
            Pac did have more wars than floyd. Most floyd fans think floyd best maidana, so I'm assuming think maidana was hitting air against floyd? That's not ageing for floyd, and don't count as a war, most floyd fans don't think maidens aggression was succesful.
            Plus floyd fans aren't clear whether maidana aged floyd, or floyd was past prime already before even fighting maidana and that's why he struggled against maidana?
            Last edited by hugh grant; 08-06-2025, 06:36 AM.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza



              Neither were in their prime. But Pacquaio was certainly looking like the fresher of the two at the time and he proved it by winning world titles 4 years after and nearly winning another one 10 years after.
              thats your opinion

              to me floyd looked pretty floyd like he was always very consistent with his performances, pac had dipped far more from his top time, thats what i saw, u saw different, great for u

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              • #47
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                3 even rounds in row.

                You are aware how dumb you sound, aren’t you?
                Hard to score it looked like sparring.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                  Ok, but how? You’re not addressing anything and just repeating the same crap.

                  Are you just choosing to put your fingers and your ears and ignore the facts or what?

                  You’ve cited Roach’s words as evidence for Pacquaio’s slide then seemingly choose to totally ignore that fact that same Freddie Roach deemed Floyd’s legs as “totally shot” 5 years prior to their fight. Does it only count one way, or how does it work? Enlighten me.

                  You’re basing Pacquaio’s supposed major slide on what exactly? Because he just totally dominated a P4P Top 10 fighter before he fought Floyd and then did the exact same thing after Floyd? Whereas Floyd on the other hand struggled twice with someone ranked #9 at WW and has never seen the P4P list and never beat a ranked fighter after his fight with Pacquaio. So which one seems more on the slide based on these objective facts?

                  Did you read the part where Pacquaio beat Keith Thurman to win a world title 4 years after he fought Floyd? Do you think Floyd could have even beaten a ranked fighter 4 years after that fight? I hazard a guess at a resounding no.
                  im not addressing it because i said what i said and thats my opinion im busy now and cant type long but freddie saying that about floyd he doesnt have inside info like he does with pac, noone i know of thinks floyds legs were shot years before that fight

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                    Ok, and at what point did I say he was in his prime
                    Are you or are you not with your statement saying he was shopworn

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by elfag View Post


                      Roy fought cans for almost 10 years. Who cares he is biased against Floyd out of some kind of diva jealousy
                      Basis for him keeping it 100

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