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If Usyk ducks Parker, that makes Parker the real world champ.
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As long as we're not giving him wins over fighters he's never faced like the Fury fanboys used to do. According to Fury's fans, he's already beaten AJ, Dubois, Zhang, Kabayel and Usyk until he actually had to fight him. This notion of "he'd beat such and such anyway so there's no point...." really has to stop. People have started doing it with Usyk over Parker and Kabayel. If it's not done in the ring then it doesn't count.Butt stuff likes this.
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Originally posted by 786 View PostAs long as we're not giving him wins over fighters he's never faced like the Fury fanboys used to do. According to Fury's fans, he's already beaten AJ, Dubois, Zhang, Kabayel and Usyk until he actually had to fight him. This notion of "he'd beat such and such anyway so there's no point...." really has to stop. People have started doing it with Usyk over Parker and Kabayel. If it's not done in the ring then it doesn't count.786 likes this.
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Originally posted by M312 View PostNo Chisora was the consensus winner v Parker in the first fight. That's why they rematched, because the judges got it wrong.
I didn't mention the AJ loss, but that was Parkers prime when he was World Champion and his chin wasn't a complete mess like it is now.
Kabayel didn't just beat Zhang, he DESTROYED him.
Parker just potshotted against Zhang to survive and nick rounds and still got knocked down multiple times.
There's no difference between the Zhang that Parker fought and the one Kabayel fought. Zhang took no damage and only really learned that he needs to throw more.
Who do you think wins in a fight? Kabayel or Parker.
Don't duck the question.
So if he has been competing in the professional game for longer duration than Anthony Joshua 'What exactly has Kabayel been doing this past entire decade? At least Joseph Parker once upon a time, was an Undefeated WBO World Heavyweight Champion. And fighting top level fighters, win or lose'.
Agit Kabayel on the world stage has done nothing much for over a decade 'He had one very close fight vs Derek Chisora back in 2017, were he did not look overly impressive. Apart from that? Nothing'.
Note: During the entire heavyweight reigns of Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder 'Agit Kabayel was an active heavyweight fighter, who was a non factor at top level in the game'.
I think Joseph Parker in big time boxing is by far more experience, and he has a better team around him 'That is enough for me to back him for the win'
Joseph Parker fought and beat Zhilei Zhang at the absolute perceived peak of his jeopardy in the heavyweight division 'The time when fighters compete against each other is relevant information which affects the rating of their performances'.
David Haye's win over Derek Chisora 'Is most likely the best win ever over Chisora. Haye fought a peak version of Chisora, who had just fought pretty much his best fight ever vs Vitali Kiltschko even in a losing effort. Haye met force with force and knocked Chisora out inside 5 rounds. Derek Chisora would not be decked or legitimately knocked out for another 7 years'.
To conclude: Joseph Parker's win over Zhilei Zhang in my opinion 'Has to be rated higher than Agit Kabayel's victory. Parker fought him twice back to back, and it is clear those two fights inflicted damage on Zhang. Similar to the way Joe Joyce was also chronically damage after fighting Joseph Parker'.
So, like I stated in my prior posts 'I would back Joseph Parker to beat Agit Kabayel, and I think he deserves a fight vs Oleksandr Uysk way more than Kabayel. I don't see much incentive for any of the worlds other top fighters to fight Kabayel, and I would not even put him as a candidate for Anthony Joshua's comeback fight' etc.
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The only reason he would not fight Parker is he would be retiring or the money isn't right. Usyk has never ducked a challenge, don't think he would start with Parker.
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Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View PostTo conclude: Joseph Parker's win over Zhilei Zhang in my opinion 'Has to be rated higher than Agit Kabayel's victory. Parker fought him twice back to back, and it is clear those two fights inflicted damage on Zhang.
Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View PostSimilar to the way Joe Joyce was also chronically damage after fighting Joseph Parker'.
Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View PostSo, like I stated in my prior posts 'I would back Joseph Parker to beat Agit Kabayel, and I think he deserves a fight vs Oleksandr Uysk way more than Kabayel. I don't see much incentive for any of the worlds other top fighters to fight Kabayel, and I would not even put him as a candidate for Anthony Joshua's comeback fight' etc.
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