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  • #11
    Wow...Usyk flattens the latest British hype job and suddenly he's the unbeatable ATG bordering on GOAT.

    What Usyks latest fights have shown is that Hearn and Warren are the best promoters capable of maneuvering flawed and limited British fighters into championships they then hold to ransom with ducks and endless rematches.

    A steady diet of U.K bums doesn't make Usyk invincible.

    All you pommy losers need to relax the death grip. Parker will show you English twats how it's done...hahaha!!!

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    • #12
      Originally posted by daggum View Post

      i disagree. you can also lose by forfeit. like when canelo forfeited his balls to avoid benavidez. anyone calling him the "man" is making a laughable claim
      Like Manny turning down the $40 mil no PPV offer. Anyone calling him the man after that is making a laughable claim.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by M312 View Post
        Parker was knocked down and beaten by Chisora, destroyed by Joyce, got the 'decision' v Zhang despite being on the floor multiple times.

        He did beat 'Wilder', but didn't come close to knocking him out and that man is a shadow.

        I don't really know why people say Parker deserves the shot anyway.
        I think people have literally forgotten he's been beaten pillar to post recently because DDD pulled out their scheduled fight?

        Not sure a single person on this website would even pick Parker to beat Kabayel. And Kabayels form is much better than Joseph's.

        Parker should rematch Joyce, have a decider with Chisora or rematch Bakole with a proper camp.

        Not sure he wins any of them.
        100% knocked out by Kabayel within 6.
        Joseph Parker twice back to back fought and beat 'The last two really solid versions of Derek Chisora I & II. Many people believed at the time, and still now? That Derek Chisora beat Oleksandr Uysk. And even if Chisora did not beat Uysk, he still pushed him right to the line'.

        Note: Trying to use Parker's fights vs Chisora I & II 'To make Uysk look miles better is not really going to work. Oleksandr Uysk fought a version of Derek Chisora miles outside of his peak, and yet still he was pushed right to the line in a extremely competitive fight'.

        Joseph Parker also may have lost to Anthony Joshua quite clearly 'But in the process he was not battered and beaten up like the way Oleksandr Uysk was vs Anthony Joshua I & II. Go and look at the state of Uysk's face after fighting both Chisora and Joshua I & II, he was busted up real good and had sustained heavy structural damage'.

        Head to head, I have stated this before on many other threads 'Oleksandr Uysk when matched against most other top level heavyweight fighters, past and present is not a formidable fighter. So don't sit there and try and make out that fighters such as Joseph Parker don't have any chance of beating him, or posing him a serious threat'.

        To conclude: On pure performance Joseph Parker deserves a title fight way more than Kabayel 'Parker is a former WBO World Heavyweight Champion, and he has beaten better fighters than Agit Kabayel. Deontay Wilder and Zhilei Zhang were better and more proven fighters than Arslanbek Makhmudov. And Parker did beat Zhang at a more dangerous stage in his career, pretty much at the peak level of Zhilei Zhang's perceived jeopardy in the heavyweight Division'.

        If Oleksandr Uysk vacates his World titles again 'The next best fight for Parker outside of a title fight? Would be a rematch vs Anthony Joshua II' etc.


        Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 07-31-2025, 08:36 AM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by RingoKid View Post

          All you pommy losers need to relax the death grip. Parker will show you English twats how it's done...hahaha!!!
          This the same Parker that has lost to 3 different "limited British fighters/UK bums" already?
          Last edited by TMLT87; 07-31-2025, 08:45 AM.

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          • #15
            The real world champ until the next time he fights someone good, you mean.

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            • #16
              yeah parker goes to p4p no1 that makes perfect sense alrite

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              • #17
                Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

                Joseph Parker twice back to back fought and beat 'The last two really solid versions of Derek Chisora I & II. Many people believed at the time, and still now? That Derek Chisora beat Oleksandr Uysk. And even if Chisora did not beat Uysk, he still pushed him right to the line'.

                Note: Trying to use Parker's fights vs Chisora I & II 'To make Uysk look miles better is not really going to work. Oleksandr Uysk fought a version of Derek Chisora miles outside of his peak, and yet still he was pushed right to the line in a extremely competitive fight'.

                Joseph Parker also may have lost to Anthony Joshua quite clearly 'But in the process he was not battered and beaten up like the way Oleksandr Uysk was vs Anthony Joshua I & II. Go and look at the state of Uysk's face after fighting both Chisora and Joshua I & II, he was busted up real good and had sustained heavy structural damage'.

                Head to head, I have stated this before on many other threads 'Oleksandr Uysk when matched against most other top level heavyweight fighters, past and present is not a formidable fighter. So don't sit there and try and make out that fighters such as Joseph Parker don't have any chance of beating him, or posing him a serious threat'.

                To conclude: On pure performance Joseph Parker deserves a title fight way more than Kabayel 'Parker is a former WBO World Heavyweight Champion, and he has beaten better fighters than Agit Kabayel. Deontay Wilder and Zhilei Zhang were better and more proven fighters than Arslanbek Makhmudov. And Parker did beat Zhang at a more dangerous stage in his career, pretty much at the peak level of Zhilei Zhang's perceived jeopardy in the heavyweight Division'.

                If Oleksandr Uysk vacates his World titles again 'The next best fight for Parker outside of a title fight? Would be a rematch vs Anthony Joshua II' etc.

                No Chisora was the consensus winner v Parker in the first fight. That's why they rematched, because the judges got it wrong.

                I didn't mention the AJ loss, but that was Parkers prime when he was World Champion and his chin wasn't a complete mess like it is now.

                Kabayel didn't just beat Zhang, he DESTROYED him.
                Parker just potshotted against Zhang to survive and nick rounds and still got knocked down multiple times.
                There's no difference between the Zhang that Parker fought and the one Kabayel fought. Zhang took no damage and only really learned that he needs to throw more.

                Who do you think wins in a fight? Kabayel or Parker.
                Don't duck the question.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by TMLT87 View Post

                  This the same Parker that has lost to 3 different "limited British fighters/UK bums" already?
                  Yep...the very same Parker but not the same fighter these days.

                  The Parker that fought Joshua was a fresh faced bumpkin from down under trained by a dodgy grifter with form and managed by a guy wayyyy out of his league.

                  Parker consequently got jobbed by a helpful ref. His trainer exposed as limited and his manager a given lesson in how to lose with no rematch clause.

                  The same Parker 6 months later and with the same team got the same result. Jobbed by U.K's finest. A roided up Whyte and slimy Eddie the Eel.

                  Going into the Joyce fight with a case of sniffles, lack of conditioning and not much of a game plan other than swing for the hills and hope to blast Joyce outta there in the early rounds saw Parker, gas, fade and get splattered late. He still went out on his shield.

                  2025 version Parker. The one Dubois ducked has a quiet, calm, steely ultra disciplined determination to become a 2 time champ. He's not the same man or fighter that stepped into the river with Joshua, Whyte or Joyce. 3 overhyped flawed fighters who Parker would mop the floor with today.

                  Vs Usyk, Parker has the best chance of any fighter Usyk has faced since Chisora. Parker is more mentally stable than Joshua, in better condition than Fury and a far better boxer than Dubois. He is also better trained and is much more disciplined than them.

                  Write The Mighty Oilskin off at your peril. Fans of Wilder, Zhang and Bakole did but here we are. Parker is the last man standing of this era and the final hope of defeating Usyk in it.

                  He's earnt the opportunity and desreves his shot wayyy more then anyone. Kabayel, Itauma, Fury whom ever needs to get in the queue behind Parker and earn their shot.

                  It's not a forgone conclusion Usyk wins easily. May the best man win on the day...
                  Butt stuff Butt stuff likes this.

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                  • #19
                    Parker isn’t beating Usyk, but would love to see what gameplan Andy Lee has put together. During the Dubois fight you could see them both in the crowd pointing things out and were totally zoned in.

                    They obviously think they’ve seen a way to trouble Usyk and would be interesting to see how they go about it.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Butt stuff View Post
                      Parker isn’t beating Usyk, but would love to see what gameplan Andy Lee has put together. During the Dubois fight you could see them both in the crowd pointing things out and were totally zoned in.

                      They obviously think they’ve seen a way to trouble Usyk and would be interesting to see how they go about it.
                      Parker can beat Usyk. He needs to be in the best condition of his life; mentally, physically and spiritually, because Usyk always is.

                      If Parker is that, he will win !

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