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Who has had the better pro career: Lomachenko or Usyk?
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Last edited by Boxing 112; 07-27-2025, 03:48 PM.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostUsyk and I don’t think it’s really even a discussion.
Loma’s career was messed up by Arum. For example he could’ve unified at FW by beating Nicholas Walters when they were the clear 2 best FW’s in the world.
Instead Arum sat Walters for a year and Loma ended up beating him at 130 which meant little in terms of history.
Usyk, ad mentioned above, cleaned out 2 divisions by defeating the best men in both.
They also never made the Mikey Garcia fight which would have been huge for legacy.
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Originally posted by Lomadeaux View Post
What? Lmao..... Nobody would fight him and the whole world knows he beat Haney. Salido would never fight him again and almost got stopped weighing probably 20 pounds heavier on fight night. Don't get me started on Lopez. These guys manipulated everything they could to stay away from.
He was the most feared fighter. You guys are into the culture wayyy to heavy.
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Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
Do you think Lomachenko had the better pro career?
Would we be asking this question if the judges got it right and gave it to Loma instead of Haney? Or if Salido and Lopez gave him rematches? These guys were as scared of Loma as any ghost in history.
You have to lean on Usyk's career based on what has happened, but everyone avoided Loma.
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Originally posted by Lomadeaux View Post
I think Usyks career is obviously incredible, but to say something like "Loma didn't live up to his hype" is insanity. Usyk is obviously fighting at a heavier weight which limits opposition, especially in the modern era. Loma's reign as the pound for pound king was pretty extraordinary.
Would we be asking this question if the judges got it right and gave it to Loma instead of Haney? Or if Salido and Lopez gave him rematches? These guys were as scared of Loma as any ghost in history.
You have to lean on Usyk's career based on what has happened, but everyone avoided Loma.
You say the heavier weights limit opposition, but Usyk is beating much bigger and stronger world champions.
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It is only recently, that Oleksandr Uysk has put some distance between himself and Vasily Lomachenko in the professional ranks 'People must factor in? It is not just about winning; it is about how you win. And the fact of each fighters careers is that Vasily Lomachenko won his fights most of the time in more impressive fashion than Oleksandr Uysk'.
Oleksandr Uysk in my opinion was not having a better professional career than Lomachenko pre Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury I & II. Up until that point? Vasily Lomachenko skill for skill had been competing against better fighters, and he was beating better fighters than Oleksandr Uysk'.
What sky rocketed Oleksandr Uysk's resume 'Was his move into the heavyweight division, and then his wins vs both Tyson Fury I & II and Anthony Joshua I & II. Pound for pound those two wins are the greatest victories achieved by any fighter in the entire sport over the past 15 years, From a share physiological perspective combined with skill, there are no victories on Lomachenko's resume which compare'.
But even still? Vasily Lomachenko was not retired in 2021 'And many big fights were potentially still out there for him. Fights that he had the definitive capability of winning, which if he did those wins would boast his resume and make the competition very close with Oleksandr Uysk'.
Note: If Vasily Lomachenko would have rematch Devin Haney II, and then fought Gervonta Davis 'And won those fights, due to the share magnitude of those fights. In my opinion, it would have been very close between Lomachenko and Uysk. But I would imagine that many people would rate Vasily Lomachenko skill for skill as a better fighter overall than Oleksandr Uysk'.
Beating Daniel Dubois and a miles outside his peak Derek Chisora are not all-time great wins 'Vasily Lomachenko's wins vs Luke Campbell and Jorge Linares are better than those wins'.
To conclude: So although Vasily Lomachenko achieved a lot in his professional career 'He did actually leave more on the table in the game. In my opinion he retired still with the capability of winning mega fights'.
Vasily Lomachenko was a better amateur fighter than Oleksandr Uysk 'And he was close to being a better professional fighter than Oleksandr Uysk. It was his retirement, and few loses in the latter part of his career which seen Oleksandr Uysk move ahead of him with great wins vs Tyson Fury I & II and Anthony Joshua I & II. They are the two wins which sky rocketed his resume, and pound for pound the two best wins of the past 15 years in the entire sport'.
Oleksandr Uysk has been the better professional fighter, he won all his biggest fights first time of asking and has achieved the two best wins on his resume vs Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua I & II' etc.
Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-09-2025, 09:45 AM.
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