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WHY is FLOYD NOT the greatest boxer of all time?

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  • #61
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

    The man said his hands were hurt.
    Which is an excuse

    How can you have Floyd beating Hands of Stone when his hands are hurtin
    Last edited by djtmal; Yesterday, 04:23 PM.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by just the facts View Post

      Every legitimate list (ESPN, Ring, etc) has Floyd rated ahead of Pac..
      ESPN who did the list that Floyd Boy Stephen A

      He probably don't know anybody past Floyd

      Like I said the sources that have Floyd ahead are the only credible ones
      Last edited by djtmal; Yesterday, 04:21 PM.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

        Yes, you keep saying floyd should be ranked higher and you also claim history will to?
        But no really acceptable explanation why?.Your explanation is usually along lines of, he has a win over pac, he never lost?
        I try to be reasonable and reply calzaghe has a win over hopkins and rjj and never lost. I say marciano has win over Joe Louis and never lost.
        Why is floyd so entitled?. Joe calzaghe and marciano are going to feel hard done by, with floyd being shown favouritism.
        Floyd doesn't need to be ranked higher than Ali, or SRR but there's an almost desperation that floyd has to be ranked above pac for some reason?
        I think you know the reason why though- Marciano was younger than Joe Louis, head-to-head he only beat an older Joe Louis. Calzaghe was younger than RJJ, head-to-head he only beat an older RJJ. But Floyd was older than Pacquiao, head-to-head he beat the younger man.

        Now, obviously there are some flaws with that logic (and I am not writing I agree with it) but I think it shows the material difference with Floyd v Manny and the other two cases cited. As I wrote, I don't agree with it- the flaw being that both were past their prime so all it showed was that head-to-head an old Floyd was better than an old Manny. Except that so many fans cite hanging on past ones prime and getting late career wins as a noteworthy accomplishment and add that to a fighters column.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by djtmal View Post

          ESPN who did the list that Floyd Boy Stephen A

          He probably don't know anybody past Floyd

          Like I said the sources that have Floyd ahead are the only credible ones
          You can disagree and not like it forever but the fact remains, history will ALWAYS recognize Floyd as the superior fighter over Manny. It is what it is.
          The Big Dunn The Big Dunn likes this.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

            Yes, you keep saying floyd should be ranked higher and you also claim history will to?
            But no really acceptable explanation why?.Your explanation is usually along lines of, he has a win over pac, he never lost?
            I try to be reasonable and reply calzaghe has a win over hopkins and rjj and never lost. I say marciano has win over Joe Louis and never lost.
            Why is floyd so entitled?. Joe calzaghe and marciano are going to feel hard done by, with floyd being shown favouritism.
            Floyd doesn't need to be ranked higher than Ali, or SRR but there's an almost desperation that floyd has to be ranked above pac for some reason?
            Here the best explanation why, all CREDIBLE all time lists already have Floyd rated higher than Pacquiao. Do you think that’s gonna magically change somehow? As I posted, you can disagree and not like that but it’s a straight up fact.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by just the facts View Post

              You can disagree and not like it forever but the fact remains, history will ALWAYS recognize Floyd as the superior fighter .
              What history you talking about. What facts.

              Ring Mag and Espn?

              Where is your backup for that claim

              They didn't fight for supremacy in 2009 Floyd was scared
              Last edited by djtmal; Yesterday, 06:29 PM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by just the facts View Post

                all CREDIBLE all time lists.
                How many CREDIBLE lists are there

                You said "all" like there is about 50 or so of these lists

                What makes these lists you have yet to name CREDIBLE

                Name them

                Name who is doing the research as well

                Also give the criteria used
                Last edited by djtmal; Yesterday, 06:30 PM.

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                • #68
                  Lol. Here we go. We still waiting on Big Dunn to provide this list of legit boxing historians, now we have credible all time p4p lists that nobody can seem to name

                  Last edited by djtmal; Yesterday, 06:25 PM.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by just the facts View Post

                    Here the best explanation why, all CREDIBLE all time lists already have Floyd rated higher than Pacquiao. Do you think that’s gonna magically change somehow? As I posted, you can disagree and not like that but it’s a straight up fact.
                    Lol how can floyd be superior fighter when he was finished at 38 years old, with only 48 fights under belt? Performed so bad that you made excuses that he must be been so past prime? Whilst pac who had so many wars still going strongish at 46 years old. Whether, you was SRL, Floyd, Hagler, they were finished by 40.
                    Which shows you don't care what pac does. You judge a fighter over their whole career, and it's clear Pac can still perform because he was genuinely great, your dismissing the extra years pac has had over his rivals?
                    Last edited by hugh grant; Yesterday, 07:38 PM.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by TheProudLunatic View Post



                      Pac could not survive May's road to HOF
                      Gtfoh. Manny is putting Guerrero Madonna 2x Berto Ortiz Sharmba Zab Baldy to sleep.

                      In succession

                      He already mashed out Oscar and Cotto, and put Hatton in a bodybag

                      In succession.

                      Floyd played pitty pat with those guys

                      Oh I forgot his hands was hurtin from picking all those cherries

                      You need to watch your mouth son you sounding real crazy
                      Last edited by djtmal; Yesterday, 09:06 PM.

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