WHY is FLOYD NOT the greatest boxer of all time?

[Bennyleonard99]

Yes, I checked boxrec and wikipedia, the win stands. Wasn't overturned because of bad shoulder, or IV fluids, or controversial devision.
So yeh, floyd on paper beat pac. But Floyd's supposed to beat pac. Pac is smaller, shorter arms, shorter height, more wear and tear with more fights.
But doesn't make floyd greater. Just like calzaghe was supposed to best RJJ, but calzaghe not greater

Yes the Haymon Floyd Vegas rigged judges gave the phony decision to Floyd but Pac clearly won as Evander Holyfield said. Cowardweather is still running from the Pac rematch because he knows he can't win an honest fight vs Manny.

[TheProudLunatic]

Haymon and Floyd controlled USADA Travis Tygart and it was highly probably they would have rigged a phony positive test to frame Pac. But Pac sued the little coward for defamation, won the case and a nine figure settlement. Cowardweather used the drug testing as one of his many escape hatches to duck Pac for six years. Showtime CBS head Les Moonves finally forced Cowardweather to fight Pac and the drug testing was not a factor anymore. It's just too bad Floyd was allowed to duck Pac for six years.

Pac didn't mention ANY OF THAT !!!!!!
Pure fear of blood leaving his body to close to fight night !!!!!!

You lived up to my expectations by not answering a fundamental question
You are a certified Pac fan

"Derp....what question ???"

!!!!

EDIT -
Pac couldnt win a fight in any other place but a courtroom. Where he didn't have to prove anything.
He only "won" $113K

[Bennyleonard99]

Pac didn't mention ANY OF THAT !!!!!!
Pure fear of blood leaving his body to close to fight night !!!!!!

You lived up to my expectations by not answering a fundamental question
You are a certified Pac fan

"Derp....what question ???"

!!!!

Arum mentioned it in an interview with Boxing Talk during Cowardweather's ducking process. Floyd and Haymon would do anything for money, even a blind fool with half a brain knows that.

[TheProudLunatic]

Arum mentioned it in an interview with Boxing Talk during Cowardweather's ducking process. Floyd and Haymon would do anything for money, even a blind fool with half a brain knows that.

Fck Arum
Pac didn't mention ANY OF THAT
Pure fear
Just like you
TOO SCARED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION

[The Big Dunn]

Arum mentioned it in an interview with Boxing Talk during Cowardweather's ducking process. Floyd and Haymon would do anything for money, even a blind fool with half a brain knows that.

Arum and Manny wouldn’t?

lmfao you can’t be that dumb.

[TheProudLunatic]

Hey you Pac Bois
How many of you 's would run away from RANDOM BLOOD tests ?????

[TheProudLunatic]

End thread ????

[Bennyleonard99]

Arum and Manny wouldn’t?

lmfao you can’t be that dumb.

Arum of course is money grub but Pacquiao certainly is not. He actually was the bigger draw than Floyd and deserved more than 50-50. It was Pac who saved boxing from the boring Floyd era. It was Pac who fought everyone and had too much honor to take the Mayweather blueprint path of least resistance. Pac also should have rejected Ugas as the sub for Spence or demanded much more money. Pac clearly was not only in it for the money like Floyd, Pac truly wanted to give the fans the most **** for their bucks and the best fights, his high risk aggressive style proves it. Pac never fought a boring safety first style fight in his whole career. He put his long term health at risk because of his confidence and respect for the sport and the fans who fund it. Floyd only cares about himself and showing off his money. Your classic narcissist.

[The Big Dunn]

Arum of course is money grub but Pacquiao certainly is not. He actually was the bigger draw than Floyd and deserved more than 50-50. It was Pac who saved boxing from the boring Floyd era. It was Pac who fought everyone and had too much honor to take the Mayweather blueprint path of least resistance. Pac also should have rejected Ugas as the sub for Spence or demanded much more money. Pac clearly was not only in it for the money like Floyd, Pac truly wanted to give the fans the most **** for their bucks and the best fights, his high risk aggressive style proves it. Pac never fought a boring safety first style fight in his whole career. He put his long term health at risk because of his confidence and respect for the sport and the fans who fund it. Floyd only cares about himself and showing off his money. Your classic narcissist.

Lmfao. Manny turned down $40 mil no PPV offer because he wanted more.

You can’t be taken seriously posting he was the bigger draw. Not one metric supports this.

Manny fought Zab Judah? canelo? corrales?

He fought a ton of guys after Floyd did, so how was his blueprint different other than he started at a lower weight?

His style was his style. You come off as clueless suggesting Manny cared about you.

Yes, we know you hate Floyd and why. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[DeeMoney]

Yes, very flawed logic. Pac had 70 fights by time they fought and is in 8th division. On paper, floyd should be expected to win. Just like Calzaghe expected to win, as was marciano.
Are you giving floyd bonus credit for being 2 years older, almost like you think pac was favourite as he's younger? I'm sure some thought pac would best floyd, but that's only because some thought pac was better.

Floyd gets so much credit as he's 2 years older than pac? So how much credit does pac get for beating thurman? How much credit do you take away from.Floyd for beating 39 year old ssm? Floyd's literally tried getting advantages his whole career, but you somehow can.pick out details like pac was younger by 2 years?

Your reasoning was so silly it's opened a silly can of worms up. Id advise you delete your post, post no 63, then I'll delete this one, post no 74

I'm not deleting anything.

You asked a question as to why people feel a certain way- I answered why they feel that and explained it. I even cited that I don't feel that way. Problem is, you are so skewed in your perspective and defensive in your stance you cant recognize normal conversation and answering of your question. You view it all as a defense of the opposite position.

Reel yourself in my man I am not making that argument, I am answering your question as to what the material difference was.