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  • In order to be a Pac Boi, you can't be honest

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    • Originally posted by daggum View Post

      i literally made an entire thread on this and i proved pac was a bigger draw in ppv and in live gates when floyd made him that sh-it offer. im sure its still up here. if you look at the numbers pac was doing bigger numbers on average per fight if you compare their last whatever 15 ppvs(the total floyd had so far in his career) the fact that you cant see that was floyds way of getting out of the fight says everything about your rampant fandom. information i guess just doesnt matter to you.

      why would pac accept 40 million no ppv for a fight that would make each guy 200 to 300 million? the way you frame things is so telling. in reality it was floyd who changed his own demands and moved the goalposts, for the third time! 14 days is ok...until pac agreed. 0 days is ok...until pac agreed. 50-50 is ok...until pac agreed its so silly to even pretend different it really is. just say yeah floyd avoided the fight but he would have won anyway or something impossible to prove. what you cant do is pretend floyd wanted the fight. the flat offer was floyd literally giving up and saying ya got me i was bluffing the whole time.

      which was a common theme in his career so not sure why you havent picked up on that? oh yeah and he literally did the same thing to winky earlier in his career, oh ill fight you winky and for 50-50....just agree to this rehydration clause, oh sh-it winky actually agreed to it! uh uh i want more money now! so you have a guy doing the same thing hes done in the past to avoid fights and you cant see the pattern? floyd wont work with top rank! cept when he works with top rank...floyd wanted 20 million guarantee to fight hoya to fight cotto...oh wait he accepted 10 million when cotto wasnt part of the deal. wow he keeps killing fights by doing things that would kill fights...how come the baldomir fight wasnt killed? puzzling
      You didn’t count the ODH or Cotto fights in your BS analysis. Manny had never been a bigger draw and never was.

      You have no credibility or integrity.

      Manny accepted the PED testing after Floyd took it off the table because he kept bullish-tting around.

      He took 42% less money to fight JMM a 4th time after saying he had nothing more to do with him. He got ktfo. You and all the other loser nut huggers use this as an excuse as to why Manny lost.

      Manny isn’t special. You seem to want Floyd to treat him as if he is. All he was is another opponent. He got treated like one. So what?

      If he wanted to fight Floyd, he would’ve accepted the no PPV offer. He didn’t. If he wanted to fight he’d have accepted the plea cutoff immediately. He didn’t. If he wanted to fight, he wouldn’t have let Bob’s son in law give him cosmetic stitches.

      Stop blaming Floyd for Manny’s cowardly actions.



      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 07-31-2025, 06:46 AM.

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      • let's see... floyd fought a super beat up version of cotto in 2012... a ktfo06 version of pacman in 2015... do you need more explanation as to why he's not consider as the best? but leave it up to the floyd bois aka nutt gobblers!
        Last edited by IceTrayDaGang; 07-31-2025, 08:07 AM.

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        • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post



          Manny accepted the PED testing after Floyd took it off the table because he kept bullish-tting around.




          This is a lie he agreed to 24 days cutoff initially but...

          Why did Floyd need last minute Olympic Style Testing in 2009 when an agreement was in place complete with blood and urine tests

          Let me guess his hands was hurtin'?
          Last edited by djtmal; 07-31-2025, 09:26 AM.

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          • Originally posted by daggum View Post

            i literally made an entire thread on this and i proved pac was a bigger draw in ppv and in live gates when floyd made him that sh-it offer. im sure its still up here. if you look at the numbers pac was doing bigger numbers on average per fight if you compare their last whatever 15 ppvs(the total floyd had so far in his career) the fact that you cant see that was floyds way of getting out of the fight says everything about your rampant fandom. information i guess just doesnt matter to you.

            why would pac accept 40 million no ppv for a fight that would make each guy 200 to 300 million? the way you frame things is so telling. in reality it was floyd who changed his own demands and moved the goalposts, for the third time! 14 days is ok...until pac agreed. 0 days is ok...until pac agreed. 50-50 is ok...until pac agreed its so silly to even pretend different it really is. just say yeah floyd avoided the fight but he would have won anyway or something impossible to prove. what you cant do is pretend floyd wanted the fight. the flat offer was floyd literally giving up and saying ya got me i was bluffing the whole time.

            which was a common theme in his career so not sure why you havent picked up on that? oh yeah and he literally did the same thing to winky earlier in his career, oh ill fight you winky and for 50-50....just agree to this rehydration clause, oh sh-it winky actually agreed to it! uh uh i want more money now! so you have a guy doing the same thing hes done in the past to avoid fights and you cant see the pattern? floyd wont work with top rank! cept when he works with top rank...floyd wanted 20 million guarantee to fight hoya to fight cotto...oh wait he accepted 10 million when cotto wasnt part of the deal. wow he keeps killing fights by doing things that would kill fights...how come the baldomir fight wasnt killed? puzzling
            Good post all facts they turn a blind eye to the pattern Floyd already set with Winky Wright and Margarito.

            Kills the narrative of totally finger pointing Manny

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            • Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              No he didn’t. He refused 14 days.
              Again he initially wanted 24 days. So that means he didn't refuse blood ost altogether, which is the picture you trying to paint.

              Eventually he agreed to 14 then Floyd said no zero.

              Why did Floyd need last minute Olympic Style Testing when they had an agreement in place
              Last edited by djtmal; 07-31-2025, 09:37 AM.

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              • Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                He agreed when it was off the table..
                That's after he asked for 24 days initially which Floyd rejected

                That's on record

                Quick AI Overview:

                Yes, originally Manny Pacquiao wanted a cutoff of 30 days before the fight for blood testing, but later agreed to a 24-day cutoff in negotiations for a potential fight against Floyd Mayweather Jr. in late 2009.
                The issue of drug testing became a point of contention and ultimately led to the collapse of negotiations for that fight. Mayweather's camp pushed for more stringent, Olympic-style random blood and urine testing, closer to the fight date.​
                Last edited by djtmal; 07-31-2025, 09:48 AM.

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                • Originally posted by The Big Dunn



                  Look dude this is boring.
                  .
                  So why you posting about it

                  It's only boring when you get fact checked and can't bs your way out of it
                  Last edited by djtmal; 07-31-2025, 10:16 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by The Big Dunn


                    He refused.
                    No he didn't.

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                    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn


                      He finally took the one that paid him the most and he came and didn’t fight like a man. He was there for the check.
                      .
                      Really Floyd was the one running and holding.

                      Iron Dan did a hold count all fight Floyd outheld him like 30-0

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