Floyd Mayweather vs Juan Manuel Marquez

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #41
    Originally posted by djtmal

    Manny wasn’t the a side vs Oscar. Oscar cherrypicked Manny for a catchweight fight

    Manny didn't have every conceivable advantage against Cotto Oscar or Margarito not the same situation at all

    Why did Mayweather need every conceivable advantage to fight Marquez.
    He already had a natural height/reach advantage, and Marquez certainly was untested two weightclasses up​
    Sure.

    Yes he did. His promoter made the challengers fight at a CW, not giving them the best chance to win.

    Answered- he used the same a side power Manny used with ODH, Cotto and Margs.

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    • djtmal
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      #42
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      Sure.

      Yes he did.
      Oscar was the a vs Manny and called Manny out. That is a fact.

      Manny didn't hold every conceivable vs Oscar Cotto or Margarito all of those guys are bigger, and have height/reach advantage.

      Manny did not pull any of those guys two weight classes up to fight him.

      Just accept it.

      Why did Mayweather need every conceivable advantage to fight Marquez.
      He already had a natural height/reach advantage, and Marquez certainly was untested two weightclasses up​​
      Last edited by djtmal; 07-25-2025, 11:39 AM.

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        #43
        Originally posted by djtmal

        Oscar was the a vs Manny and called Manny out. That is a fact.

        Manny didn't hold every conceivable vs Oscar Cotto or Margarito all of those guys are bigger, and have height/reach advantage.

        Why did Mayweather need every conceivable advantage to fight Marquez.
        He already had a natural height/reach advantage, and Marquez certainly was untested two weightclasses up​​
        Sure.

        Stop making excuses. He drained all of them with CW’s because he could as the a side.

        Asked and answered twice. Will not change my answer nor answer again.

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        • djtmal
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          #44
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn

          Sure.

          Stop making excuses.
          So Manny has height/reach advantage on Oscar/Cotto/Margarito and pulled all those guys up two weight classes?

          Answer the question direct please

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            #45
            Originally posted by djtmal

            So Manny has height/reach advantage on Oscar/Cotto/Margarito and pulled all those guys up two weight classes?

            Answer the question direct please
            No. He was the a side so he CW’d them. Stop pretending I said otherwise to try and deflect from Manny using the same a side power Floyd used.

            Moving on.

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            • djtmal
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              #46
              [QUOTE=The Big Dunn;n32505512]

              No./QUOTE]

              And you know godammed well that he don't

              So why do you insist that it's the same situation as Mayweather pulling Marquez up two weight classes and welching on the catchweight, despite already having a significant height/reach advantage

              It is clear that it's not

              You want to omit details that don't support your boy
              Last edited by djtmal; 07-25-2025, 12:23 PM.

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              • djtmal
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                #47
                The guy clearly says:

                Marquez could never beat Mayweather regardless of weight, body shape, steroids, or whatever other lame excuses you want to use.

                So we beg to ask....

                so if that is the case, why did Mayweather need every conceivable advantage to fight him.

                He already had a natural height/reach advantage, and Marquez certainly was untested two weightclasses up​

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                • ELPacman
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by joseph5620

                  Marquez could never beat Mayweather regardless of weight, body shape, steroids, or whatever other lame excuses you want to use.

                  It's also funny how you conveniently left out that Mayweather was coming off a two year lay off.
                  I'm not saying he could beat Mayweather. I don't think the layoff mattered for Mayweather. He was still training, still young and just keeping an eye on how the welterweights beat each other up to come back and pick them off. Just because he was 2 years laid off and it kept him fresh, doesn't mean bringing up Marquez up a weight class was in anyway going to help Marquez.

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                  • elfag
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                    #49
                    Most fighters fight a mix of guys bigger and smaller.

                    Even say Ali was relatively large for his time, was heavier than fraizer, was only 4 pounds smaller than "big george".

                    Mayweather fights ONE confirmed guy who was actually smaller than him on fight night in his last 20 fights, even zab and Pacquaio were the same weight as floyd or more and then they make a huge deal out of it. Never mind that JMM was what p4p number 2 in the world they still cry how much smaller he was. Its seriously the only guy anyone can confirm weighed less on fight night in Floyds 20+ championship fights.

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                    • Grandma Lover
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      Same reason Manny drained Cotto and ODH and CW’d Margs- he used his power as the a side.

                      Stop complaining about that only when Floyd does it.
                      Manny didn't drain cotto and Oscar was the a side you fvkcing idiot.

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