Floyd Mayweather vs Juan Manuel Marquez

[pretty boy_]

Enough with too small excuses. Marquez best win was at welterweight against the P4P great Pac. Matterfact Mayweather would have beaten the bigger slower Marquez that whooped Pac even easier. It just comes down to styles really. The better counterpuncher won.

[djtmal]

Enough with too small excuses.

Well, he was a lightweight moving up to welterweight in one fight.

He didn't beat Manny at welterweight until years later

[daggum]

Oh yeah it was great and canelo vs Charlo was great too

[djtmal]

JMM played soft, he didn't go after Floyd with any bad intentions or vicious aggression. He just stood there and patty caked with the franchise. This was a very suspect "fight." The biggest payday of JMM's career too.

JMM went after Pac with bad intentions. Here vs pitter patter Floyd, JMM played patty cakes.

Speaking to the JMM payday he got his guaranteed fight purse plus over half a million for Floyd weighing in 2lbs over the catchweight

Yeah I see how he could be advised to keep it pg

[Bennyleonard99]

Speaking to the JMM payday he got his guaranteed fight purse plus over half a million for Floyd weighing in 2lbs over the catchweight

Yeah I see how he could be advised to keep it pg

Probably that was part of the bonus for agreeing to play soft.

[djtmal]

Probably that was part of the bonus for agreeing to play soft.

Yeah because he had to know he was behind by the championship rounds.

Never tried to make it a dogfight

[Malvado]

By the way Marquez wasn't even at Lightweight for that long when Mayweather Jr brought him up from Lightweight to the catch weight of 144, were Mayweather came at 146, not to cut the last minute not the cut extra weight (2 pounds). Technically near the standard weight cut to Welterweight. Basically what's going on with Canelo vs Crawford to a degree, Bud fought at 154 once, then moves up two weight classes more for the fight.

Marquez fought at Lightweight for 6 months, against two tough fighters in Joel Casamayor and Juan Diaz.

Diaz coming off wins over Julio Diaz, Michael Katsidis, and Acelino Freitas.

Casamayor coming off a streak of wins over José Santa Cruz, Michael Katsidis, and Diego Corrales.

Before that he gave Pacquiao a tough bout in the second bout and beat a dangerous Barrera who was coming a streak of 6 wins, with wins over fighters like Robbie Peden, Rocky Juarez X2, Mzonke Fana, Paulie Ayala and Erik Morales at Super Featherweight.

Don't think he is overrated at all. Not the greatest run of all time even including his win and controversial loss to Pacquiao. But a career many professional boxers would like to have. Also think he was just settling at lightweight, then gets bloated against a pure boxer who is stylistic nightmare for a counter puncher.

[paulf]

Marquez was sharp that night but ultimately too small.

Floyd had been out of the ring for a couple years - fighting Marquez in his first fight back, and the fact that he's been criticized in this thread for it, speaks to how goddamn great Floyd was.

[djtmal]

Marquez was sharp that night but ultimately two small.

Floyd had been out of the ring for a couple years - fighting Marquez in his first fight back, and the fact that he's been criticized in this thread for it, speak to how goddamn great Floyd was.

He was all time great at cherrypicking after Hatton

[Bennyleonard99]

Yeah because he had to know he was behind by the championship rounds.

Never tried to make it a dogfight

Biggest payday of his life, to spar soft with the boss. Who wouldn't do it?