Who is greater all time: Floyd or Usyk?

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  • BOJACK
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    #171
    Got to give it to Usyk, Floyd ducked all the fighters that would have made him great

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    • Pac=Duran
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      #172
      Originally posted by hugh grant

      yes, usyk is literally unbeatabke. Floyd was only unbeatable with gift decisions fighting in backyard, and only if he didn't fight ggg at 160, or Nelo without a cw, whilst green without rematches, etc etc You suggest floyd give rematch, you were greeted with either sarcasm, or excuses.?
      I don't see a way floyd can be as great as usyk. Usyk literally done everything. Floyd never did anything you wanted him, whether it fight outside backyard, give rematch, or fight toughest available
      This is what it boils down to for me. There's a crazy long list of guys everyone wanted Floyd to fight but he didn't. Loads of asterisks against his name. Not so with Usyk. He went towards the fire, Floyd retired and played business man many times.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #173
        Originally posted by hugh grant

        Nobody knows what on earth you are on about. Whatever your on about I'm sure it took floyd 10 years to best hatton, cotto, dlh and SSM. And by the time floyd fought and best them, there were new kids on the block, from thurman, spence, bud and brook and bradley. Please forgive me if I've missed anyone, it's been a long day and I'm a little tired
        You do. The post is saved in poster Jedi Vader’s sig.

        Why you gotta lie about it?

        Floyd beat everyone you said he needed to become an ATG. Once he did, your hatred caused you to delete the post and then, as you do here, move the goalposts.

        Too bad Floyd doing what you thought he couldn’t stripped you of what little manhood you have. Just admit you were wrong and give him the credit he earned.

        You have no credibility.

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        • Pac=Duran
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          #174
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn

          You do. The post is saved in poster Jedi Vader’s sig.

          Why you gotta lie about it?

          Floyd beat everyone you said he needed to become an ATG. Once he did, your hatred caused you to delete the post and then, as you do here, move the goalposts.

          Too bad Floyd doing what you thought he couldn’t stripped you of what little manhood you have. Just admit you were wrong and give him the credit he earned.

          You have no credibility.
          the people have spoken. No real argument left to say that Floyd is the greatest fighter of this century

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #175
            Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

            what does Usyk gotta do to get a W on the ATG list? seems like you only give him props and praise him high when he's being compared to other europeans but soon as his name gets mentioned along some of the greats african americans of the past, he can never be above them.

            i dont give a damm if posters say Usyk is better than manny... that's their opinion... doesnt mean i gotta agree with it. but i wouldnt care!! that's the difference...
            Huh? Where did I suggest he wasn’t on the ATG list?

            Stop lying and exaggerating. I said he isn’t above Ali and Floyd. Nothing controversial about that.

            The problem is idiot racists like you and ball smoking pac fans like the TS only ask these type of questions to signal to your friends. Same garbage year in and year out.

            You guys don’t ask more reasonable questions like is Usyk better than Lewis or Tyson.

            You will never ask if is he above Manny. You’re only interested in either race baiting or dissing Floyd.

            Usyk is an ATG. That doesn’t mean he is above Ali, Leonard, Robinson, Floyd, and some others.

            It does mean if you ask about other ATGs- Hearns, Holyfield, Frazier, Tyson and some others - he will be.



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            • The Big Dunn
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              #176
              Originally posted by Pac=Duran

              the people have spoken. No real argument left to say that Floyd is the greatest fighter of this century
              Lmfao. He is the best of his era as determined by media experts etc.

              We get it. You and many of your buddies still hurt he easily beat Manny try to lessen his career.

              Is what it is.

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              • djtmal
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                #177
                Shout out to Big Dunn. This thread got his full attention. He got the cape and utility belt on. Pulling out every Floyd excuse he can.

                He used to have an army of Floyd boys helping him out with excuses i guess they threw in the towel

                Get him some tissue

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #178
                  Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

                  the boded --

                  Please read!!! i never accused you of saying he's not on the list!!! I asked you what does he gotta do to move up on the ATG list above some of the ATGs of african americans!!

                  i already said i dont care... Usyk cam be above manny, so what? life goes on!! LOL!!!! the hell.. you expect me to stress over it because some posters online rank Usyk higher than Pac? I DONT CARE!!!
                  You asked what he had to do to get a W on the ATG list. You didn’t ask this.

                  Answered this in the post you quoted. Just because he isn’t above some ATG Americans doesn’t mean he is below all of them.

                  Why are you only asking about black people? Why not Mexicans, Panamanians, British? You need to stop letting your hatred for black peoplemdrive your thinking.

                  You missed the point- you racists and Pac ball gobblers don’t ask those questions because they don’t lead to race wars or Floyd dissing, which is the only goal.

                  Stop pretending you don’t care. If a thread like that were created you’d be defending Manny as you are a ball gobbling Stan.

                  More to the point- Floyd fans aren’t insecure like you guys. We don’t need to constantly make threads to try and lessen the guys Floyd beat. It doesn’t serve us in any way.

                  You guys NEED to lessen Floyd because you are mad you never saw him lose in the ring.
                  Last edited by The Big Dunn; 07-23-2025, 09:39 AM.

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                  • daggum
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                    Lmfao. He is the best of his era as determined by media experts etc.

                    We get it. You and many of your buddies still hurt he easily beat Manny try to lessen his career.

                    Is what it is.
                    Fallacy warning: appeal to authority

                    He doesn't have any wins over prime greats and there's nothing you or any "media expert" can do to change that. How can someone be the best if he never beat the best should be the next question asked...

                    And He didnt even beat an old pac if you score on clean punches. He was barely grazing him with feather jabs while pac landed all the hard impactful punches. We can go back and watch it now without emotion(well some of us can) and the punches just weren't there for him to deserve to win. At least Jake paul beat Tyson legit. Maybe Jake paul is the best of his era? Paul and Floyd are one and the same. Frauds

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #180
                      Originally posted by daggum

                      Fallacy warning: appeal to authority

                      He doesn't have any wins over prime greats and there's nothing you or any "media expert" can do to change that. How can someone be the best if he never beat the best should be the next question asked...

                      And He didnt even beat an old pac if you score on clean punches. He was barely grazing him with feather jabs while pac landed all the hard impactful punches. We can go back and watch it now without emotion(well some of us can) and the punches just weren't there for him to deserve to win. At least Jake paul beat Tyson legit. Maybe Jake paul is the best of his era? Paul and Floyd are one and the same. Frauds
                      You have absolutely no credibility or integrity.

                      You use rank to determine resume for Eastern Europeans than change when it’s Americans and Mexicans you don’t like.

                      He beat them when they chose to fight him.

                      Writers have a journalistic oath they adhere to.They can’t play dumb and biased like you and others when you pretend these guys weren’t bigger earners before Floyd beat ODH and refused to fight him. They can’t lie that Manny refused to fight him because he didn’t want to take PED tests, not agreeing until after Floyd took the deal off the table.

                      They can’t pretend Floyd didn’t easily beat Manny when they fought liken you do in this post. They can’t dishonestly pretend Pretty Boy and Money were treated the same.

                      Perhaps when you show some honesty and integrity by ranking all opponents with the same standard will you be taken seriously.


                      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 07-23-2025, 09:51 AM.

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