Who is greater all time: Floyd or Usyk?

[The Big Dunn]

Given that Usyk doesnt pick or weight drain, use TUE's, illegal IVs, Catchweights or clause his opps, ON TOP OF being undisputed in 2 divisions, I have to say Usyk.

Throw in all amateur, Olympic awards/medals Usyk won and its a wrap

You mean - Floyd beat Fishnets, Manny and Canelo and I am still mad about it.

[M312]

I don’t think it’s that in any way.

I think it’s the hate for Floyd that causes these threads and responses. You look past that.

Look at who created the thread? Also, if the situations were reversed, no way anyone would make this type of thread and many surely wouldn’t vote Floyd.

For years on NSB there has been a movement led by Pac fans like the thread starter to lessen Floyd. because he beat Manny and everyone else. Yet you will not criticize their irrational jealousy and hatred.

The first post doesn't even say anything, it's just a poll.

Yes, created by a Pac fan, but to be so emotionally invested - because a Pac fan made the poll - is even more insane imo.

Who even cares? They are all great, we got to witness them all. You can have your 1-3, but that's just an opinion.

But when people reply irrationally and can't accept a perfectly normal debate, because a Pac fan started a thread (?), dude seriously, get off the internet, it's not for you.

[Haka]

I refute those cons with facts because the cons you guys lay out are never honest.

Take you as an example. You make a thread calling for Floyd to fight Shame next because you thought Shane would beat Floyd because Shane beat Margs . Cool.

Floyd does exactly that 5 months later. Floyd wins. Then you claim you didn’t make the thread ( which got proven to be a lie) and you then claimed Shane had no chance to win.

This is the type of irrational hatred and jealousy that doesn’t make sense. It makes every other criticism you have suspect.

Shane already called for that fight since 1999 yet how many losses did he suffer and what age was he before that fight materialized ?

[The Big Dunn]

I think tbe point people are making is that people lined up but only guys like bsldomir made it into the club. Floyd was the doorman and only let bums in. When floyd had all the power in boxing he still didn't make the fights so your argument kinda sinks floyd.

And its not like Floyd was fighting great comp with top rank turning down marg to fight Zab and sharmba, pricing himself out of a cotto fight by demanding 20 million to fight hoya, then floyd happily accepted 10 million for Hoya when cotto wasn't part of the deal.

the one constant was floyd. He didn't want the smoke as they say and to blame it on everyone else in boxing is laughable. He had thee most power in boxing. Even when he was with top rank he was far more powerful than any potentiall opponent. You think tr-ump wants to release the epstien list too? I mean he said he did! Ignore all his actions to cover up that hes not...why ignore all Floyd's actions?

If you set aside the irrational hatred and jealousy and had any credibility, you’d admit Bob told Floyd he wouldn’t make the fishnets fight so Floyd brought out his TR contract and fought Baldo - who had beaten Zab for a legit belt l, so he could then fight ODH. Margs was TR fighter with the lowly rated WBO title.

Floyd became the cash cow so everyone wanted to now fight him, especially the names that had avoided him when he was high risk, low reward. You never said they HAD to fight Floyd. Now suddenly you act like Floyd owed them a fight or you as a fan. You never held them to that same standard.

Again if you had any credibility or honesty you’d point out the rankings of the guys he fought as you do with the Eastern European boxers you love.

Stop making things up. Bob stopped the Cotto fight once Floyd destroyed the guy Cotto’s father trained.

Floyd fought the top ranked boxers just like the Eastern Europeans you’re defending.

What irrational and jealous posters like you do is elevate the guys he didn’t fight above where they were. You also don’t hold other boxers accountable for not fighting them. That is it is extremely biased.

[The Big Dunn]

Shane already called for that fight since 1999 yet how many losses did he suffer and what age was he before that fight materialized ?

Irrational dishonesty like this is the issue. Shane had a toothache when Merchant asked him directly about fighting Floyd.

Can’t have a rational discussion if all you’re Going to post is dishonest, disingenuous irrational nonsense.

Floyd do what you asked immediately after you asked it. You seem to only have asked for him to fight Shane because you thought he’d beat him. Be an adult and admit this.

When Shane lost, your irrational hatred caused you to make excuses and lie rather than just admit you were wrong to pick Shane.

[Haka]

Irrational dishonesty like this is the issue. Shane had a toothache when Merchant asked him directly about fighting Floyd.

Can’t have a rational discussion if all you’re Going to post is dishonest, disingenuous irrational nonsense.

Floyd do what you asked immediately after you asked it. You seem to only have asked for him to fight Shane because you thought he’d beat him. Be an adult and admit this.

When Shane lost, your irrational hatred caused you to make excuses and lie rather than just admit you were wrong to pick Shane.

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That is just not factual.

[The Big Dunn]

The first post doesn't even say anything, it's just a poll.

Yes, created by a Pac fan, but to be so emotionally invested - because a Pac fan made the poll - is even more insane imo.

Who even cares? They are all great, we got to witness them all. You can have your 1-3, but that's just an opinion.

But when people reply irrationally and can't accept a perfectly normal debate, because a Pac fan started a thread (?), dude seriously, get off the internet, it's not for you.

You’re doing it again. You claim just Floyd fans are emotionally invested when it’s the Manny fans and those that hate Floyd that constantly make these type of threads, showing they are far more emotionally invested.

You don’t like it when Floyd fan corrects the record so you make all of us out to be the bad guys rather than the others.

Ok than respond this way when the threads and polls go up. You only call out one group. Very biased.

Who replied irrationally? I pointed that out because it’s always Manny fans rehashing this stuff. It’s unhealthy.

Yet you never criticize them for it.

[djtmal]

I refute those cons with facts because the cons you guys lay out are never honest.

Lol. This doesn't make any sense.

Where is the dishonestly in the fact that Floyd disappeared from ww division two years, avoiding top ww's. Only to return and fight a lightweight

You mean you refute those cons with excuses because that's all you ever give

[The Big Dunn]

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That is just not factual.

First off, my bad thought you were another poster.

Merchant absolutely asked him about this and he had a toothache.

[The Big Dunn]

Lol. This doesn't make any sense.

Where is the dishonestly in the fact that Floyd disappeared from ww division two years, avoiding top ww's. Only to return and fight a lightweight

You mean you refute those cons with excuses because that's all you ever give

Floyd said he hurt his hands. He returned and fought a tuneup against JMM, because he had just fought Manny who everyone wanted him to fight.

Literally every boxer that comes back has a tuneup. Youre filled with irrational hatred because Floyd made easy work of JMM while Manny struggled with him.