Boxing requires very little sporting talent

[kafkod]

I would say Fake Paul's boxing career to date proves the exact opposite of what you're saying here.

Think about it ... Fake got into boxing as a young, naturally fit and quite athletic guy with millions of $$$ in the bank. Enough $$$ to hire a world class trainer as his personal coach and pay to train in high end gyms alongside bona fide world class boxers. And he's smart, with a high work ethic and bags of determination, otherwise he wouldn't have all those $$$ in the bank.

And after 7 years dedicated training, with all those advantages, Fake, if he was based in the UK, would be fighting at area title level .. at best. He lost to Tommy Fury, ffs!

Sure, he just beat a former world champion. But mate, it was JC Chavez Jr. You know .. marijuana smoking, coke snorting, junk food gorging, mental health problems having, JC Chavez Jr!

[kafkod]

Which snooker player ever reached the top level without picking up a cue until adulthood

Which premier league footballer never kicked a ball until 18???? Jamie Vardy was in Sheff Wed's youth system since he was a kid and got releases at 16.

You're talking nonsense lad


You've had world champ heavyweights that never boxed until they're adults lol

I'm talking about people who literally never participated in the sport until adulthood. Only boxing and MMA fall into the category of people becoming champs when taking it up as adults. Because the talent level of these sports are much lower

He isn't competing at top level though. If he was a footballer he would be a million miles away from the Premier League, a trillion miles away from The Crucible if he was a snooker player.

Boxing and MMA are different than other sports. Some guys are just born fighters, for reasons which have little do with athletic ability or talent. They are more physically resilient than normal guys, they can take a lot of physical punishment and keep coming, and they have a vicious streak, which most people don't have and which wouldn't give them any advantage in other sports, even if they did have it.

[kafkod]

Very interesting perspective. Boxing is a joke.

I'll tell you what the real joke is ... the WBA just installed Fake at number 14 in their rankings.

[Willow The Wisp]

There are many good points that have been brought up here in defense of the toughest sport in the world that you can't tap out in.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the fact that experience, critical in all sports, and indeed all professions, has a unique twist for Boxing. In boxing, every fight you have produces some measure of injury to your body, and experience, extended out; reaches a line of demarcation, and produces diminished returns!

There is no way around that.
Too much experience, and your body will cross a line, where your additional experience isn't worth the damage you've acumulatively taken; seen or unseen.

A perfect example of this is seen when many of the "forever amateur" Cubans wait too long to turn pro. With 200, even 300 short amateur fights, they make certain that they know the craft like Nobody’s business; but they've simply had too much "experience", and discover that their physiology has received too much trauma to make it in the pros.

The same thing occurs in what we used to call the "Mary Sports" like Basketball; but for obvious reasons, it occurs at a much slower pace.
Hence the longer years of exposure being the best way for them.

I think the OP was lacking such fundamental understandings when he vented his disappointment at Tyson and Chavez failing to win against the showman; but they both went to the bank on account of the Paul Brothers circus. Tyson bought another massive castle, regardless of how smart that turns out to be; and I don't even want to think about what Junior's plans are for the lifetime fortune that he's just made.

Jon Jones the Mixed Martial Arts superstar, one of the best AND most popular MMA stars produced in that prize fighting sport's short 32 year history, had a total career earnings of just 14.2 million dollars, and he's apparently through now. So don't ever say that life has to be fair.

I think that this thread has been blead out at this point.

[Sheldon312]

Why is it easier for Heavyweights to start later and have more success than lighter weights.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Jake Paul proves boxing is one of the least talented sports
I don't care where Chavez is right now, there's no other sport where a youtuber could start in their 20s and beat former champions in that sport.

Look at the likes of Wilder or AJ. Never laced up a pair of gloves until they were adults and become world champions. You just can't do that in other sports, no chance.

It's simply down to needing less talent to succeed in boxing.

I don't wanna hear boxers are great sportsmen again. Brave? Absolutely. But it's a sport that people can start very late and still beat champions because the standard of sporting ability is so low.

Put it into perspective...do you think you could never dribble a basketball until the age of 21 and then within a few years be able to compete in a game with even the most mediocre retired NBA player? there's no way.

Paul, a guy who never boxed until his 20s just did as well against Chavez as prime Canelo did against a badly weight drained stoner Chavez lollll. Boxing is a joke.

Denis Rodman only started playing organised basketball at 20, won multiple NBA titles, defensive accolades etc. Embiid never played the game at all until 15-16 and became an MVP, multiple All Star appearances, putting up 30-10 consistently.

I’ve never actually seen Jake Paul fight other than a few clips and I honestly suspect a decent senior HW from my local gym could deal with him in a couple of rounds. I think Chavez Jr simply sold his name for money.

Most sports comes down to athleticism combined with skill. For every Bernard Hopkins there’s a Deontay Wilder, both started late, one developed the skillset the other got by on god given athleticism. You’re always gonna get guys who are naturally good at sports.

Basketball is similar, you have say Steph Curry who’s a pure skill player, isn’t big, fast, strong etc but is easily the most talented shooter we’ve ever seen, then you have a guy like Giannis who struggles to make a free throw but due to insane athleticism combined with other talents is one of the most dominant offensive talents in the league.

[Willow The Wisp]

Tennis requires very little fighting talent.

[HisExcellency]

Lmao imagine referencing Jake Paul as the reason why boxing requires very little talent whereas in reality the complete OPPOSITE is true. Aside from MMA, I can't think of another sport which requires so much concentration and reflexes plus it's an individual sport as opposed to team sports like soccer & basketball.