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  • The D3vil
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    #61
    Eh, I get what OP is saying, but there have been other instances in which people started late & became great at something.

    Dennis Rodman is a HOF basketball player & started playing at 20

    Brock Lesnar took up MMA in his 20s as well.

    I think boxing is a unique sport, where there is no real gatekeeping to keep people out, which is one of the reasons that you don't see people in other sports becoming champions.

    You literally have to graduate from high-school to play in the NBA, MLB, & NFL. They won't even let you try to make a team if you're an American who didn't go to school.

    Crazy thing is there's tons of stories of NBA players going to playgrounds & getting destroyed by regular cats, who for some reason didn't play in school or were kicked out of school

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      #62
      Originally posted by The D3vil
      Eh, I get what OP is saying, but there have been other instances in which people started late & became great at something.

      Dennis Rodman is a HOF basketball player & started playing at 20

      Brock Lesnar took up MMA in his 20s as well.

      I think boxing is a unique sport, where there is no real gatekeeping to keep people out, which is one of the reasons that you don't see people in other sports becoming champions.

      You literally have to graduate from high-school to play in the NBA, MLB, & NFL. They won't even let you try to make a team if you're an American who didn't go to school.

      Crazy thing is there's tons of stories of NBA players going to playgrounds & getting destroyed by regular cats, who for some reason didn't play in school or were kicked out of school
      brock was only success in mma because of his size!! he got whooped on a ko'd against cain.

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      • The D3vil
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        #63
        Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

        brock was only success in mma because of his size!! he got whooped on a ko'd against cain.
        Still ended up the HW champion

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          #64
          Originally posted by DeeMoney
          Jr is washed up and past his prime, but came back for money. You dont think Jake Paul could beat Bob Cousy in a game of basketball right now if Cousy decided to come back and play? Of course he could, which invalidates the point made by the OP
          Now wait a minute…Cousy is nearly 100. That’s…a bit of a stretch. lol

          PS: The only reason I know who Cousy is because I played NBA Street Volume 2 for dozens and dozens of hours in my teens. That game was the ish.

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            #65
            Originally posted by TintaBoricua

            Now wait a minute…Cousy is nearly 100. That’s…a bit of a stretch. lol

            PS: The only reason I know who Cousy is because I played NBA Street Volume 2 for dozens and dozens of hours in my teens. That game was the ish.
            From margin to center with the argument. The Original post stated "Jake Paul proves boxing is one of the least talented sports I don't care where Chavez is right now, there's no other sport where a youtuber could start in their 20s and beat former champions in that sport...."

            I believe my Bob Cousy point proves that to be false. There is a bunch of other nonsense that is being slinged about within the thread that I don't want to get into, but I just wanted to show that the original point was wrong. Now, you argue its a bit of a stretch, but the premise is still the same- evaluating a sport based on how well a past their prime champion performs is asinine.

            Sure the Cousy argument can be viewed as absurdism, but as I wrote margin to center- using absurdism to prove the overarching theory to be false, then you can connect the dots back. ​

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              #66
              Originally posted by deathofaclown
              Jake Paul proves boxing is one of the least talented sports
              I don't care where Chavez is right now, there's no other sport where a youtuber could start in their 20s and beat former champions in that sport.

              Look at the likes of Wilder or AJ. Never laced up a pair of gloves until they were adults and become world champions. You just can't do that in other sports, no chance.

              It's simply down to needing less talent to succeed in boxing.

              I don't wanna hear boxers are great sportsmen again. Brave? Absolutely. But it's a sport that people can start very late and still beat champions because the standard of sporting ability is so low.

              Put it into perspective...do you think you could never dribble a basketball until the age of 21 and then within a few years be able to compete in a game with even the most mediocre retired NBA player? there's no way.

              Paul, a guy who never boxed until his 20s just did as well against Chavez as prime Canelo did against a badly weight drained stoner Chavez lollll. Boxing is a joke.















              Lmao yes. They used to get dudes from high school straight Into the pro leagues what are you talking about? And it's not even the same this is so ******. Basketball scouts are going to high schools and colleges. It doesnt work like that at all in boxing you fvkcing moron

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                #67
                Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

                let's keep it real.. his body is not that ruined... bruh made weight with no issue...
                When he used to be a boxer he fought at about 30 pounds below the weight he made at the weekend. He looked like a guy doing a six week camp for white collar boxing.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Toffee

                  When he used to be a boxer he fought at about 30 pounds below the weight he made at the weekend. He looked like a guy doing a six week camp for white collar boxing.
                  i would say his mind is more damaged from drug abuse than his body is.... he doesnt look the same, fighting wise... even his high guard looks ******ed LOL.. i was thinking what the hell is he doing.

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                  • daggum
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                    #69
                    Wilder should be proof of that although he was helped massively with soft matchmaking and clever marketing

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                    • kafkod
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                      #70
                      I would say Fake Paul's boxing career to date proves the exact opposite of what you're saying here.

                      Think about it ... Fake got into boxing as a young, naturally fit and quite athletic guy with millions of $$$ in the bank. Enough $$$ to hire a world class trainer as his personal coach and pay to train in high end gyms alongside bona fide world class boxers. And he's smart, with a high work ethic and bags of determination, otherwise he wouldn't have all those $$$ in the bank.

                      And after 7 years dedicated training, with all those advantages, Fake, if he was based in the UK, would be fighting at area title level .. at best. He lost to Tommy Fury, ffs!

                      Sure, he just beat a former world champion. But mate, it was JC Chavez Jr. You know .. marijuana smoking, coke snorting, junk food gorging, mental health problems having, JC Chavez Jr!
                      Last edited by kafkod; 07-01-2025, 10:48 AM.

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