Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder: One last shot? Or just plain shot?

[BlackRobb]

Wilder is one of the biggest cases of wasted talent in boxing history. After winning the title he adopted a style of wait to land the right hand and give away rounds in the process and that doomed his career at the top level. I really noticed it against Gerald Washington when I was ringside in Birmingham. He lost every round until he landed.

He's always fought like that. I was at the Garden for the first Ortiz fight when the Cuban had him in bad trouble and won most of the rounds. Wilder has never ever remotely been a skilled boxer.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Wilder`s best fight is Stiverne 1, by far. That is his only fight where he actually outboxed somebody, winning rounds, and getting a decision.

[TMLT87]

Shot, but was never that good to begin with.

The guy has beaten ONE legit top 5 level guy in an almost 50 fight career, and that guy was 39 years old, alleged to be much older, and gave him a life or death fight.

[Willow The Wisp]

So much criticism of this guy! I wonder how many of you critics are British?
I wonder how many are bigots?

Why else would anyone be against the hardest hitting, most exciting heavyweight to come along since Mike Tyson (who had his own vast collection of flaws)?

He landed flush on Tyson Fury and took him out. If he could do that, he could most CERTAINLY do the same to Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, Vitali Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko, and Anthony Joshua (just roll the tape, it's been done); NONE of whom had anything even close to Fury's recuperative powers.
I'm not saying that he would have, nessisarily, but the threat would be very real. Very.

I wonder how many of these critics, who can't seem to understand what awkward effectiveness is, have ever even seen a heavyweight world title fight?????

And I don't mean on your TV or phone.

[LEONIDAS26@]

I’m going to make this as plain and simple as possible.
Wilder NEVER was the REAL DEAL.
His ko ratio is compromised of the absolute worst batch of tomatoe cans I’ve seen since the era of Marciano.His first 30 plus fights are a study in how to protect a vulnerable fighter who in truth has no business being in a ring when he CANNOT BOX or even mastered the basic fundamentals. Something a twelve year old has already learned.

How do you judge power? By QUALITY of opposition.
Mike Tyson was leveling and punishing legitimate top ten fighters and champions who had every advantage over him by the time he got to Berbick and would go on to consolidate the titles before he was 25.
Tyson beat legit, tested Contenders in the top ten.
Thats how you judge a puncher.
I cap off right now at 182lbs. I can guarantee you that I could have stunned and possibly tkod some of the tomatoe cans Wilder faced prior to Fury.

The moment He faced a top ten fighter of some substance he FOLDED worse than a lawn chair.
EVERY SINGLE One of his MANY deficiencies were exposed and he NEVER came back again.
It’s just THAT simple. No need to read a long drawn out story about a fighter that could be summed up in one word: OVERRATED. Big time.

And NO. Mike Tyson had nowhere near the amount of flaws that Wilder has. Tyson’s problem was his mindset and lack of mental focus after he lost his mentor and teacher Cus Dmatto. It certainly had nothing to do with his outstanding technique and legitimate skill.
Once he lost his focus he became more one dimensional but he was still beating guys who if they around TODAY, would decimate the guys in this extremely WEAK era.

[daggum]

Let's not forget in the first ortiz fight wilder was given an extra long rest when he was out to "make sure he was ok" blatant protection in order to give him the optimal chance to come back and win which credit to him he did but that was a microcosm of his career and how he was protected at every turn.

[SteveM]

I'm not saying that all his opponents were bums - that's very disrespectful to both Wilder and his opponents - what he had was THREE elite abilities , not just one. Can you name them or are you just here to jump on somebody at the end of their career?

[SteveM]

Thought not.
1/ Focus
2/ Timing
3/ Power

[SteveM]

Oh .... btw .... get ready to vent again when he's nominated for the HOF -- he has a strong 'Fame' component. in ten years time - many will still remember his trademark 'Bombsquad' war cry (as cheesy as it was)

In 25 years time, people will still be talking about the 12th round of Fury-Wilder 1.

[SteveM]

And finally - don't be surprised if he even struggles this weekend - he should win by ko - but if he gets hit clean he could collapse in a heap