Frank Bruno and Anthony Joshua had very similar careers, But who was better?

[Boxing 112]

He did indeed try to vacate the WBC title. They simply refused to believe him. Not that it matters, because the alphabet soup belts have jack squat to do with the lineal championship in the first place.

But he did, in fact, retire. Twice.

And I don't honestly care about The Ring, and haven't since De La Hoya bought them. The TBRB is the legitimate independent ranking organization of record and has been since its inception.

No he didn't. He never formally advised WBC he was vacating the title and it was never vacant so no he was not retired.

[Willow The Wisp]

Joshua had the better career is what I'm hearing. At heavyweight, I don't go in for all those passed round & round Negocio sin escrúpulos titles as much as the quality of opposition measure, as a purist; but there should, in carefully thought out criteria, be a number of other metrics weighted, surely.

We see a ceiling with both gents, examining the stumbles. That last part is where there might be more parity.

[elfag]

Joshua got overrated for trading knockdowns with a geriatric 42 year old wlad

Joshua is near shot in his mid 30s, could you imagine him at 42 vs a 30 year old wlad? it would be a blood bath, but they made a big deal of him in his prime getting up off the canvas to beat a 42 year old

[daggum]

Joshua got overrated for trading knockdowns with a geriatric 42 year old wlad

Joshua is near shot in his mid 30s, could you imagine him at 42 vs a 30 year old wlad? it would be a blood bath, but they made a big deal of him in his prime getting up off the canvas to beat a 42 year old

dont disagree but that was the dynamic. It's not like Joshua waited for wlad to age.
Joshua also beat guys in their primes like Parker Whyte and Ruiz.

Wilder is the only one who has never beaten a good prime fighter. Remember ortiz was about 40 and not as good as those guys to begin with. 30 year old ortiz vs 40 year old wilder? Obviously ortiz wins. We could do this for a lot of fighters and fights but if only prime vs prime matters wilder literally has nothing good while Joshua does.

[MalevolentBite]

AJ and it aint even close...............

[famicommander]

No he didn't. He never formally advised WBC he was vacating the title and it was never vacant so no he was not retired.

He did. And the WBC put out a statement saying they were going to wait and see.

And again, the WBC has zero to do with the lineal championship anyway.

[IceTrayDaGang]

AJ by a mile.

[hugh grant]

Josh has looked very bad in a few fights where it might cross your mind to think he'd lose to bruno. But no reason to think bruno would face the worst version of josh. Maybe the best version of josh beats bruno
But as for career, josh is better

[dan_cov]

AJ is more accomplished and has a better resume he also benefitted from having a better team and being in a weaker era.

AJ will go down as better based on accomplishments but he wasn't a better boxer and would get ktfo head-to-head vs Bruno whose stance, style, stature was practically identical to Dubois only he hit a hell of a lot harder.

[Boxing 112]

He did. And the WBC put out a statement saying they were going to wait and see.

And again, the WBC has zero to do with the lineal championship anyway.

It does relate since he was always active wbc champion. Therefore not retired. Therefore still lineal. Case closed. It doesn't matter much as the point i was reply to was the one claiming AJ fought for Lineal when he didn't but he still lost